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Old 03-05-2013, 4:32 PM
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Sorry if this has been posted already. I did a search and nothing came up.

A proposed municipal ordinance is in the works;
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/...blic-nuisance/
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This has lawsuit written all over it.
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Mag Ban L.A. - City meeting 2/22
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=709700

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but this would be a follow up or just the time it takes the media to report on things..
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Calguns Foundation told the City we'd be happy to sue them over this, if passed. Also, magazines which are lawfully possessed are not a public nuisance.
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Unrealistic. Unlawful. Unintelligent.

But I do have some questions....

If, for some miracle, this ordnance does take effect, how does LEOs .. "the rank & file" guys feel about putting their lives even more in danger with confiscation?

How many citizens would react violently to "gestapo"-like tactics this type of ordnance MIGHT bring?

This one is easy... Are Anti-gunners and liberals running out of idiotic ideas?
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if mags are a public nuisance then wtf are the police using them
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Lordy cakes! The government is truly out of control. With all their problems, they want to confiscate magazines, and Carmen Trutanich, a politician we were told to support, spearheads the movement? I thought when you became a lawyer you took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution of the United States?
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I was advised at CCW class to NOT carry mags over ten rounds, even if you have legal ones that are larger. Why? Because of this.

YES it is illegal. But....
YES you will get arrested;
YES you can lose your CCW;
YES you may get cleared in court, but
YES it will cost you time, money, and heartache to do it.
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It is time to deflate completely. Our governing powers no longer have any credibility.
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Calguns Foundation told the City we'd be happy to sue them over this, if passed. Also, magazines which are lawfully possessed are not a public nuisance.
Are you guys suing the state over the 10+ round magazine summary destruction as a nuisance law? Seems like this would be the better route to go instead of suing individual cities.

http://law.justia.com/codes/californ...0-32390/32390/

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PART 6. CONTROL OF DEADLY WEAPONS [16000 - 34370]
ARTICLE 1. Rules Governing Large-Capacity Magazines
Section 32390

Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section 32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any large-capacity magazine is a nuisance and is subject to Section 18010.
(Added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. Effective January 1, 2011. Operative January 1, 2012, by Sec. 10 of Ch. 711.)
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I was advised at CCW class to NOT carry mags over ten rounds, even if you have legal ones that are larger. Why? Because of this.

YES it is illegal. But....
YES you will get arrested;
YES you can lose your CCW;
YES you may get cleared in court, but
YES it will cost you time, money, and heartache to do it.
What complete and utter garbage information. Tell whoever told you that to call Jason Davis and that CGF will pick up the tab for their education just so they stop spreading nonsense at their classes.

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Are you guys suing the state over the 10+ round magazine summary destruction as a nuisance law? Seems like this would be the better route to go instead of suing individual cities.

http://law.justia.com/codes/californ...0-32390/32390/
You're misreading the PC like City of Los Angeles is:

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32390. Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section
32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section
17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any large-capacity magazine is a
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16005. Nothing in the Deadly Weapons Recodification Act of 2010 is
intended to substantively change the law relating to deadly weapons.
The act is intended to be entirely nonsubstantive in effect.
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provision of this part, of Title 2 (commencing with Section 12001) of
Part 4, and every other provision of this act, including, without
limitation, every cross-reference in every provision of the act,
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The people have a fundamental right to keep and bear firearms for self-defense, including those in common use which use magazines having a capacity of greater than 10 rounds.

Any outright ban on the possession of magazines is a violation of the Second Amendment.

If Los Angeles passes any outright ban on the possession of magazines within its jurisdiction, The Calguns Foundation and Cal-FFL will, along with taxpaying residents of LA, sue the City for civil rights violations in federal court and take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary.

We will absolutely not accept LA scapegoating tens of thousands of law abiding gun owners and retailers in Los Angeles, and countless travelers and visitors, for the evil and insane acts of a few criminals.
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Well I know people have had their lawfully owned 30 round magazines confiscated by law enforcement and destroyed due to that state law. There's more than one thread about it happening on here.
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I was advised at CCW class to NOT carry mags over ten rounds, even if you have legal ones that are larger. Why? Because of this.

YES it is legal. But....
YES you will get arrested;
YES you can lose your CCW;
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YES it will cost you time, money, and heartache to do it.

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Fixed that for you.
Yes thank you, sorry about that! I wonder if stupid state laws get passed this same way.
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Unrealistic. Unlawful. Unintelligent.

But I do have some questions....

If, for some miracle, this ordnance does take effect, how does LEOs .. "the rank & file" guys feel about putting their lives even more in danger with confiscation?

How many citizens would react violently to "gestapo"-like tactics this type of ordnance MIGHT bring?

I just cant see an idea like this ending well....
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I just cant see an idea like this ending well....
That's the point, it would end badly. That's why we don't ever want it to happen. (at least that's how I interpreted this post)
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That's the point, it would end badly. That's why we don't ever want it to happen. (at least that's how I interpreted this post)
well that was my 3rd rewrite, all other statements i wanted to post might have landed me behind bars.
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If this attempt at infringement comes to pass we're going to see a lot of people contributing to make a legal example of Los Angeles.
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I was advised at CCW class to NOT carry mags over ten rounds, even if you have legal ones that are larger. Why? Because of this.

YES it is illegal. But....
YES you will get arrested;
YES you can lose your CCW;
YES you may get cleared in court, but
YES it will cost you time, money, and heartache to do it.
This has been discussed before. A nuisance is a civil action. You can't get arrested for it.
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It is completely unlawful/unconstitutional for a county, city, or other small municipality to pass any laws or ordinances that are stricter then state law. It is in violation of the commerce clause. Once passed it will have an injunction put on it (at least should) because it violates the 4th Amendment rights of citizens that dont live in city limits but have to travel through to get to their destination.
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Calguns Foundation told the City we'd be happy to sue them over this, if passed. Also, magazines which are lawfully possessed are not a public nuisance.
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Trutanich is an embarrassment for Los Angeles and those here that promoted him. Who knew?

D'oh!
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Trutanich is an embarrassment for Los Angeles and those here that promoted him. Who knew?

D'oh!
I recall that some had more trepidation over that support than others. Nuff said.
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won't the city have to PROVE that the magazine was not legally owned prior to 2000? I mean short of watching you drive home from Reno with them, having mags for a gun that didn't exist prior to 2000 or admitting to manufacture they've got a tough row to hoe.
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Well I know people have had their lawfully owned 30 round magazines confiscated by law enforcement and destroyed due to that state law. There's more than one thread about it happening on here.
Wow. More info and links please.
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It is completely unlawful/unconstitutional for a county, city, or other small municipality to pass any laws or ordinances that are stricter then state law. It is in violation of the commerce clause. Once passed it will have an injunction put on it (at least should) because it violates the 4th Amendment rights of citizens that dont live in city limits but have to travel through to get to their destination.
I think it's just unlawful for state, county and city laws to be more lenient, not stricter. But I could be wrong.
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I think it's just unlawful for state, county and city laws to be more lenient, not stricter. But I could be wrong.
Yes, you're wrong. Cities have to be mindful of state preemption and the Constitution.
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Sue them, be happy to contribute to Calguns more money for them to do this. L.A. is awash in gang violence and their solution is to go after law abiding citizens, these people must be mentally ill.
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I personally find the Prius to be a public nuisance. Am I free to destroy them even if they are legally owned?

I thought that it was widely regarded that freedom comes with the need to tolerate many things which might be inconvenient.
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Trutanich. Whose partner was he?

I digress.

Confiscation of common arms was the original sin that lead to the passage of both the Second and Fourteenth Amendment.

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PS. I realize Trutanich's ex-partner is equally frustrated with him but, common.. really?
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Lordy cakes! The government is truly out of control. With all their problems, they want to confiscate magazines, and Carmen Trutanich, a politician we were told to support, spearheads the movement? I thought when you became a lawyer you took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution of the United States?
GO back to your instructor and have them show you case law that supports this ridiculous suggestion.
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Trutanich. Whose partner was he?

I digress.

Confiscation of common arms was the original sin that lead to the passage of both the Second and Fourteenth Amendment.

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PS. I realize Trutanich's ex-partner is equally frustrated with him but, common.. really?
OK, maybe I got a bit carried away, but I... nevermind...

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Having pre-ban Mags would make this an Xpostfacto law would it not? I read the Constitution and it is the law of the land.

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Having pre-ban Mags would make this an Xpostfacto law would it not? I read the Constitution and it is the law of the land.

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This law will go nowhere. Thought up by those ignorant of the Constitution and precedent - covers most of those in Sacratomato.
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This law will go nowhere. Thought up by those ignorant of the Constitution and precedent - covers most of those in Sacratomato.
Maybe... But we need to start acting. When people in government start trying to pass ridiculous laws like this based on mis-information, we need to ACT. VOTE THEM OUT. Help spread the information about these people when the time comes for re-election... They are suppose to be working FOR US... not against.
Term limits should be a must as well... ok.. off my soapbox.
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