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CBS: Police can confiscate high cap mags/clips as public nuisance
Sorry if this has been posted already. I did a search and nothing came up.
A proposed municipal ordinance is in the works; http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/...blic-nuisance/
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This has lawsuit written all over it.
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Mag Ban L.A. - City meeting 2/22
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=709700 audio http://www.lacity.org/government/Ele...aCategory=1814 needs windows but this would be a follow up or just the time it takes the media to report on things..
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Unrealistic. Unlawful. Unintelligent.
But I do have some questions.... If, for some miracle, this ordnance does take effect, how does LEOs .. "the rank & file" guys feel about putting their lives even more in danger with confiscation? How many citizens would react violently to "gestapo"-like tactics this type of ordnance MIGHT bring? This one is easy... Are Anti-gunners and liberals running out of idiotic ideas?
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if mags are a public nuisance then wtf are the police using them
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Lordy cakes! The government is truly out of control. With all their problems, they want to confiscate magazines, and Carmen Trutanich, a politician we were told to support, spearheads the movement? I thought when you became a lawyer you took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution of the United States?
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I was advised at CCW class to NOT carry mags over ten rounds, even if you have legal ones that are larger. Why? Because of this.
YES it is illegal. But.... YES you will get arrested; YES you can lose your CCW; YES you may get cleared in court, but YES it will cost you time, money, and heartache to do it.
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The people have a fundamental right to keep and bear firearms for self-defense, including those in common use which use magazines having a capacity of greater than 10 rounds.-Brandon
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Well I know people have had their lawfully owned 30 round magazines confiscated by law enforcement and destroyed due to that state law. There's more than one thread about it happening on here.
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Fixed that for you. |
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Yes thank you, sorry about that! I wonder if stupid state laws get passed this same way.
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I just cant see an idea like this ending well....
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That's the point, it would end badly. That's why we don't ever want it to happen. (at least that's how I interpreted this post)
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well that was my 3rd rewrite, all other statements i wanted to post might have landed me behind bars.
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It is completely unlawful/unconstitutional for a county, city, or other small municipality to pass any laws or ordinances that are stricter then state law. It is in violation of the commerce clause. Once passed it will have an injunction put on it (at least should) because it violates the 4th Amendment rights of citizens that dont live in city limits but have to travel through to get to their destination.
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Thank you, your work is greatly appreciated!
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I recall that some had more trepidation over that support than others. Nuff said.
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won't the city have to PROVE that the magazine was not legally owned prior to 2000? I mean short of watching you drive home from Reno with them, having mags for a gun that didn't exist prior to 2000 or admitting to manufacture they've got a tough row to hoe.
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Wow. More info and links please.
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Yes, you're wrong. Cities have to be mindful of state preemption and the Constitution.
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Sue them, be happy to contribute to Calguns more money for them to do this. L.A. is awash in gang violence and their solution is to go after law abiding citizens, these people must be mentally ill.
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I personally find the Prius to be a public nuisance. Am I free to destroy them even if they are legally owned?
I thought that it was widely regarded that freedom comes with the need to tolerate many things which might be inconvenient. |
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Trutanich. Whose partner was he?
I digress. Confiscation of common arms was the original sin that lead to the passage of both the Second and Fourteenth Amendment. -Gene PS. I realize Trutanich's ex-partner is equally frustrated with him but, common.. really?
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What about the pre-ban BMF Activators?
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Term limits should be a must as well... ok.. off my soapbox. |
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