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Concealed Carry Discussion General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California |
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Looks like SSE people will need to do an additional step and PPT the gun to someone who then PPTs it back to you.
Or do a voluntary DOJ registration to a immediate family member who then PPTs it back to you or who gives it back to you via voluntary DOJ registration again. |
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This is gonna be a bigger issue seeing as how it is not applied equally throughout the state (different counties). I have an SSE'd P238 on my permit and my IA had no issues with it, actually was complemented on it being such a nice firearm.
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Does the spouse need to have a HSC? FFL?
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Wow, just wow!
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Might work, but of course doesn't pass the smell test, and I'm not sure why some over diligent IAs wouldn't discover this and say it's their policy to not allow it. But sure starts becoming cost prohibitive. |
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That varies greatly from IA to IA. Some people already have highly modified guns on their permits.
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The big question here is how was the permit issued with the SSE firearm listed on it if it doesn't meet the guidelines? They're certainly taking their sweet time moving these apps through the system, you'd think they'd catch this before issuing? There's got to be something else going on here, especially since they notified him the next day, meaning they're still processing paperwork after the fact...
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It's because the DROS shows single shot and they said people are skirting around the law with it. He said you can have an SSE pistol on the permit but it has to be single shot - NOT semi automatic with 10 rounds.
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Why? Then they can see how jacked-up their "guidance/non-policy" is! The final outcome of SSE+PPT+PPT=PPT=legal, is redonkulous!
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I had my 1911 .45 ACP full size as my primary and then listed XDS 3.3 9mm that was SSE'd. Investigator crossed out the SSE pistol during my interview. I bought the XDS for the CCW and now I can't use it? What a waste of money. He said just to use the 1911 or a Glock 19.
Last edited by defcon; 05-15-2014 at 8:58 AM.. |
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Were you the one who posted your interview experience but then was told to edit out the post? Any info as to why?
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i didnt know it actually came to fruition until i saw this thread when they started calling people to return their permits and scratch out their SSE pistol(s) imagine if that SSE was your only primary. |
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What part of the law is the AG basing that opinion on?
If the firearm was legally purchased, is registered, etc, then what makes it illegal or unsuitable for carry?
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The more important question here is exactly where the law states a 'single shot' weapon cannot be converted to a semi automatic.
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As a brand new Ventura County approve CCW Instructor, I won't be giving classes until I know exactly what Ventura is requiring. I'm wondering about all the older people who have either purchased off roster guns via PPT or prior to the roster's existence. I just wouldn't feel right about taking money from someone to qualify with a certain firearm and their not being able to use it.
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so if you get into an altercation with more than 1 bad guy, you can chuck your SSE pistol at the 2nd person and run like a good citizen until the cops come in 15 minutes to take your report |
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I'm sure that's what Brandon and CGF are working on though.
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That was once on the list, unless my memory is really shot.
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Wow this is really concerning since I have an SSE'd gun on my permit. However I believe the only way to track that would be to run the serial and it will show SSE. If you bought it when it was on the roster or through PPT then your DROS shows it as a semi auto and shouldn't matter then. Like others have said, if you ppt your SSE to a buddy you will be selling it to him as a semi auto and then he can transfer it back to you as a semi auto and again shouldn't be an issue then. If your SSE gun is still in SSE form then they have no grounds to say you can't keep it on there. The penal code specifically says it is legal to buy off roster guns as SSE. It also does NOT say that you can't convert it back to semi auto but that adds a little more grey area in it.
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or find one or more buds with the same gun/condition and launch a swap party
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hahahha I can imagine the classifieds now "WTT off roster shield for off roster shield"
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This is one of the reasons people are willing to pay more for a used off-roster gun which already had SSE done. This scenario is one that has been discussed at length and people were criticized for thinking it too hard or being paranoid.
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This.
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A lot of LCP owners! Many CCW permits are meant specifically for carrying just those handguns. Will this be one city gets to CCW them and the other doesn't? Sounds like it, considering it's 'recommended' or suggested "guidelines."
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When I did my interview last month with one of the Detectives here in Ventura, I was questioned about my list of firearms and asked if one was an SSE and if I was going to carry it as a single shot. I told him it would be semi auto, and he then proceeded to write down notes about it and have yet to hear any updates about my CCW.
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