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Here are a two of my trauma bags, the larger is about equal to the one on my Engine, including a jumbo D o2 tank and BLS airway adjunks and the smaller is all trauma bandages with a few MCI tags.
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Part of CERT training and intent - I plan to have the pre-hospital treatable injury franchise in my couple block neighborhood.
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My hiking kits stay in there respective bags. I have started doubling up some smaller stuff so my GHB/day hike bag can stay ready to go. My event kit will stay in my trunk as I mostly have my car where ever I am.
As to why see my post with the pictures in page one. |
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As a note, I've added to my EDC kit since the pic was taken, I've added things like extra gauze and self-adhesive wraps. I am planning on making my home kit which is what the Blackhawk STOMP is for. That can also get thrown in the car during an INCH situation (house burning down, etc). I haven't started buying extra supplies for it yet. It should be here tomorrow (just ordered it last week) so that will light a fire under me to start stocking it. My goal is to have all of my kits be somewhat redundant for small injuries/trauma but as the kits get bigger, they can handle more things. My medical training is limited so I don't carry anything I don't know how to use. I plan on expanding my knowledge through further classes/education but that gets done as the opportunities present themselves. My CERT class really opened my eyes to a lot. I learned a ton in the full day of medical training but mostly what I learned is that I don't know jack sh#$ about medical stuff.
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This....plus a number of additions to better suit me for the area I live in and where I would bug out to.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-F...=first+aid+kit |
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In my years as a PJ and now whenever I go sling some lead I have carried the same set up, Here it Goes:
2 SOFT-T Tourniquets (2 is 1, 1 is none) 1 Quickclot Granual 1 Combat Gauze 2 rolls Kyrlex 1 NPA 1 6" Israeli Bandage 2 Dart Decomp Needle 2 Bolin Chest Seals 2 Occlusive Dressing 1 Ace Wrap 1 Medical Tape 1 MIST report card 1 Black Sharpie 1 White Paint Pen 2 Safety Pins 1 Medical Shears 1 Benchmade Rescue Hook All housed in an ITS Blow Out Pouch. I always try one tourniquet center mounted so I can reach it from either arm, and one on my rifle. Stay Safe All. |
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What's a MIST Report Card?
Just finished recently watch "Inside Combat Rescue" on NatGeo about the PJs serving in Afghanistan. Awesome!! You guys kick ***!! Thanks for your service..I'm sure the many people you've helped save say the same thing. |
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you marked down basic info, mechanism of injury, treatment, time and action for doctors. |
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M - mechanism of injury
I - injuries received S - signs & symptoms T - treatment already received The report card follows the patient to the hospital so docs can treat appropriately. Many EMS folks know about the cards, but only use them in multi or mass casualty incidents where they may not follow a patient to the hospital themselves. |
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10 years being a navy corpsman I've learned that we are able to accomplish things with less. This is what I carry in my car. Basically focuses on mostly hemorrhage control and other life threatening injuries.
Circulation: 3 kerlix rolls 1 small battle dressing 1 Israeli bandage A couple of CAT Tourniquets Improvised tourniquet 2 Ace bandages Triangular bandages Airway/breathing: An ET tube for crich Aschermen chest seal Tegaderm as an occlusive drsg 18g IV cath for needle decomp Nasopharyngeal Misc: Nonin (pulseOx) Trauma shears Stethoscope Ammonia inhalants Steristrips w/benzoine Headlamp/penlight PPE Strapcutter/window breaker SAMS splint ENT kit |
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Just starting out. So far I have basic first aid.
coban kerlix bandaids antibiotic oitment 4x4s I have 2 "big" bags of sodium chloride (IV solution) 2 IV tubing kits hand full of IV catheters 18 gauge - 22 gauge 2x 50mg diphenhydramine 2 IM injections Still working on more. |
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All of the normal stuff and:
Antibiotics (2-3 10 day courses of broad spectrum abx) Quick clot (powder + sponge) Sterile suture kit Lidocaine (probably expired by now) Sterile gloves Safety CPR respirator (sorry, not french kissin anyone, even if they dying) Medical Glue stick Benadryl Israeli bandages (abdominal + leg sizes) all of the above is in a BOB in car, wifes car, house.
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What do you plan to do with these?
I don't object - I have some, too, but left over from nursing school where I needed them for labs. (Size 10 or 11 sterile gloves are uncommon; took forever to find big ones on line.) It's just that field treatment usually involves dirty wounds, without a lot of capability to really clean them out, and 'clean' gloves are usually just as good. (And I won't remember my lab instructor griping 'augh! you touched the paper! Sterility is compromised! New gloves!' )
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Size 14+ shoe? |
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A part of my BOB: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
No affiliate or $ benefit here. Just a great kit. Take an EMT course or hook up with an ARMY medic or USMC corpsman (even better) to show you the ropes. Last edited by HPBrowningMK3; 04-22-2013 at 9:31 PM.. Reason: added info |
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Superglue and duct tape.
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I can't get 8s on at all; 9s always break; I think that's a latex thing, because nitrile of the same size is already 'expanded' and doesn't rely on being stretchy. Latex 10s are OK, but they take near forever to put on properly. 11s - ah, like comfy shoes! Depending on brand, I usually wear XL in nitrile clean gloves. A lot of Ls also work, but can be a bit tight, and sometimes tear going on. Imagine my great joy at seeing the kits for Foleys ... OTOH, my Asian classmates often found those a bit too big. A couple surgeons I watched wore/wear 7s - there's some real benefit to having small, nimble hands when galumphing through a small incision.
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I added a hemostat, because blleeding out from an artery doesn't sound fun, and I 'd rather try to sew it back together. Probably need another though...
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The key is to not have anything in your kit that you don't know how to use, because it won't really be helpful. Also a word of caution, don't use Quik clot unless its really a life/death situation, as it can cause serious burns and can also send embolus (especially the powder version) ... it really is a last resort solution (Celox is actually better, and I will change to that when my quik-clot expires). That said I keep a pack and an israeli in my shooting bag too.
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The burning is reduced but still present. The risk of Embolus is real and ever-present. Check your facts. Celox is less thermogenic, but can still cause clots. Even the gauze versions can propagate clots.
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here is my home kit/kits, pretty much what everyone else has listed and then some. You can have all the kit in the world just make sure you get the training. Myself, US Army CLS, EMT-1, DMT (Diving Medical Tech) and TCCC. Work primarily as a DMT. And for all you EMT trained guys out there, if you want to learn some serious skill set, way beyond Paramedic, take a DMT course. Pre-req is EMT, you don't need to be a diver but it helps.
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Quick Clot and Celox are Pre-hospital care, post SHTF, it will be useless. But you are correct Celox is a much better product
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+1. One of the best classes I ever took.
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This thread said first aid, not shtf. Any GSW post shtf is a bad bad day.
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As an 18 year trauma ICU nurse, I'd say a portable electrocauterizer (size of a long penlight) is glaringly lacking in these lists of otherwise extensive kits. Good way to deal with those pesky bloody oozers in your gashes, venous or arterial. Of course, there's the assessment, experience, and split second decisions in isolating the problems and dealing with it. Not always easy to do when the situation is live and in your face!
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But the training is another issue. Seems to be part of a surgical technician's training (e.g. https://www.trocaire.edu/my/registra...e-descriptions) but I don't see a lot.
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I better get my kit together lol
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Question? Which brand of butterfly bandage do you recommend?
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It's good to see you also have the Israeli Battle Dressings and Quick Clot. I always wonder why I bought mine. I'm not an EMT just a bit of a Boy Scout.
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Take the leap and assume all FA kits are not similarly purposed. Some are six-sigma lightweights for cuts and scrapes that require instant resupply. Other kits are meant to withstand more than one event. All so far are premised on quick evacuation to an equipped medical facility. None show the depth of supply needed to treat a village's worth of ailments over an extended period of time, nor should they do so here.
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