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Rimfire Firearms .22, .17 and other Rimfire Handguns and Rifles |
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The limits of rimfire?
With all the new restrictions on centerfire rifles coming down the pipe I was wondering how bad *** could you make a rimfire cartridge? I know nothing of reloading but I'm curious if a large population of people where willing to pay .50 cents a round for instance what are the limitations of the rimfire design and costs? How close could we get to .223 ballistics?
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Was the bear story real too?
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????????? Largebore rimfire rounds have taken big game and killed plenty of attackers with one shot.
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Until they fix the "loophole" and ban it when it becomes popular...
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Shot placement is still king
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There are a couple of new rimfire rounds comming out and the re introduction of the 5mm remington. All of them are at the lower end of 223 bulistics. 17 winchester rimfire is the newest. DR
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Good video...and kind of funny too
A few gems:
- one thing we've gathered here is a couple things... - ...it will hurt your azz. - if you get a hole in you that you weren't born with, you will die |
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There is a big limitation on rimfire due to the strength of the casing around the rim. This limits pressure.
You can get pretty decent performance with some of the rimfire rounds out there... but nothing approaching moderate centerfire loads. Also the obvious downside is that you cant reload rimfire. As to the legislation and what you can/cant have/lethality... perhaps you should look at a modern black powder with sabot hunting rounds. I do expect it to pack a lot more wallop at distance than a rimfire. And you can reload it cheaply (except the price of the sabots) |
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The most powerful rimfire round on the market currently is the 17 Winchester Supermag. It has 400 ft/lbs at the muzzle.
If a semi auto platform could be made that shot this round, think dedicated AR15 upper, it would be a potent gun for a rimfire at least. |
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Keep in mind .22s,l,LR are loaded with LEAD bullets and new laws are going to be coming down the liberal pipeline restricting shooting in public places (Public Ranges) soon.
Hunting with a .22 is now out. |
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Thought I was aware of all the new proposed laws. Which laws are in the pipeline to restrict the use of lead bullets? I know about the ones in the Condor Zone. Thanks.
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Old story, but I never seen it disputed for accuracy, except I did read same account, where she fired up to 6-8 rounds, reloading, one after another, from the single shot .22 LR rifle, possibly Stevens Favorite.
.22 LR FTW. Quote:
Last edited by MyOdessa; 09-13-2013 at 11:30 AM.. |
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The 22lr can bring down just about any game in north America. Saying that, as with any other round, shot placement is the key along with good tracking skills, since larger game may travel a ways before bleeding out. During the depression my father told us that him and his older brother fed an entire family of 12 with a single shot .22 and 12 gauge loaded with bird shot (and the occasional cut shell). If you don't know what a shotgun cut shell is, its a real old way to turn bird shot into a self-contained deer slug, but many say its not safe is not recommended.
Last edited by dominic; 09-13-2013 at 11:47 AM.. |
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What about a non-traditional rimfire? It uses a standard boxer primer, offset in the case so now itis no longer centerfire.
The sticking point is indexing the primers, but it's not insurmountable. We're making a new cartridge and gun, so we can make changes from tradition. |
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http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...y-Son----.html
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Not excusing it in the slightest. Just pointing out a .22LR can kill from a distance.
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http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201320140AB711 |
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I may be mistaken, but does"rimfire" actually appear in any law? Most things mentio. "Centerfire" and we are on our own to conclude that rimfire is exempt. While it may not be a rimfire as we know it, not a centerfire means the same thing.
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Rimfire is not banned in CA ONLY because it is relatively innocuous. If someone was to start cranking out enough large caliber rimfire weapons that can cause serious harm (easier than you can with .22lr, at least), you can be darned sure the word "rimfire" would be added right back into to every law on the books, ASAP.
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If it's not specifically illegal, it's legal. That's how our legal system works. You have to be charged with violating a specific law. |
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