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Too expensive | 7 | 17.95% | |
Too far away | 7 | 17.95% | |
Both too expensive and far away | 5 | 12.82% | |
Too late at night | 1 | 2.56% | |
Other reason | 8 | 20.51% | |
Didn't know about it | 11 | 28.21% | |
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll |
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IE Monthly Shoot: How can we make it better / Get you to attend?
I would like to hear from people that attend about how we can make the IE monthly shoot better.
And just as importantly for those that do not attend why you don't and what would get you to come. Currently: Quote:
The location? Both? Something else? Everyone has scheduling conflicts on certain days so if that's the issue unfortunately we probably wont change the day the shoot is on. But maybe making it earlier in the day? Please don't just vote, post a reason too. If it is the fee is too expensive post a number you think would get you to attend. If its the location then post your location and how far you are willing to travel. Would say Riverside be more central? Thank you! Last edited by Chaos47; 12-10-2013 at 5:03 PM.. |
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It's every first Friday of the month, every month.
Currently it is held at Rancho Magnum 7:30-10PM after hours as a private event Fee is currently $20 We just had our last one on this past Friday. There is a thread about it stickied to the top of the IE forum. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=849889 Added a new poll option Last edited by Chaos47; 12-10-2013 at 4:41 PM.. |
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My biggest reason for not going regularly is that ammo has been too hard/expensive lately. My stockpile is dangerously low. Couple that with a stupid work schedule (which is changing soon!), and it's tough to get there. While the range fee isn't outrageous, it is $3.00 more than anybody would pay for 2 hours on the range during normal hours. I'd like to see it in the $12-15 dollar range. Almost forgot. PLEASE don't move it to Riverside.
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As my first time attending, I thought it was well organized and the evening seemed to flow very well. Location is great for myself as I do live in LA county and the prices were decent considering it is a private event.
A perk is the professional photography that is done, great to look at the photos of the shoot. The round robin (introduction's) was a plus so we can put the face to the screen name. My goal was to meet more like minded individuals and have fun and that was definitely accomplished. |
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I like the location, it's close to me and they've been improving it nicely. I just don't go to the range all that often because of ammo supply. And according to my bf, the ventilation isn't that great.
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Perhaps we could rotate from one IE range to the next. Say Rancho, Riverside, San Bernardino, Banning...
IE is a big area, spread it around I'd say.
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I liked the location and I didn't think the price was bad at all for what was offered. Though it would be nice to have it at the Riverside Magnum Range every so often, it's much closer to me and close enough to Corona that the area isn't too bad. May be nice to set up an outdoor event at a range that's looking for new members and willing to let us have the event there?
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I wanted to go to this one but had a conflicting appointment, so I couldn't go as far as people saying ventalation was bad, I didn't have an issue last time I was there.
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I voted didn't know about it.
This past event was my first time attending. I just heard about it. I thought the location and day was good. If it were a weekend, my family probably would not attend. Mon-Fri is good for our household. Price seemed normal for attendance. The pizza and prizes were a wonderful addition! My wife & I are looking forward to attending again Having the NRA instructor there to lend advice was helpful. This helped my wife significantly. I thought the start time was perfect. Especially since people have work/family and commuting. Then the time it takes to drive to the event. I think the two hours of shooting might be a little short. Especially for those sharing a lane. Possibly make it three hours of shooting. I know we were moving pretty fast to swap between the two of us. 7:30-8 (intro) 8-11 (shooting) + 30 min cleanup. Everybody gone by 11:30. Maybe find out the zip codes for those wanting to attend and base the location for the event in a centralized location. IE is a large area and may be too far for some to attend. I certainly wouldn't be against attending an event either riverside magnum or riverside indoor shooting range once it opens.
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I don't go to Rancho because of their ammo policy:
"No Lead Nose Allowed. Everything has to be FMJ."
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$20 for 2 hours is pricey, the firing line (all day) is cheaper - $14.
The lighting and ventilation suck, during the "draw a picture" competition a few months ago I had trouble shooting due to sweating so much from the far left bay which seems to have NO air circulation. Not being able to recover my brass also bugs me. |
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I'd like to join you guys for one of these things... Fridays are sometimes challenging and I had a conflict this time but I'll make it happen one day soon. i don't really have any problems with the price, location, ammo or policies about brass either.
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I didn't know about it, but would attend
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Especially when you're on one of the "edges" and have to go to the opposite side of the IE. Rotate it - spread the wealth to other ranges and we get introduced to new places to shoot.
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IE Monthly Shoot: How can we make it better / Get you to attend?
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As for the price it was well over 2 hours of shooting and the range is closed to CGN only... I think the price was fair for what we received. Plus isn't "the Firing Line" in OC? This is an IE event... 😁 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Why would i be talking about an OC range in an IE thread? http://www.lytlecreekrange.com/ Last edited by SunsetIE; 12-13-2013 at 7:55 AM.. |
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Overall, Rancho Magnum has been good to us and I wouldn't want to abandon that location all together. They have done some extensive remodelling over the past year and are still making more improvements. I think it's a pretty nice place and has a fair amount of space to accommodate a large group.
You can't go beyond the booth/firing line to pickup brass but I wouldn't expect any indoor place to allow that anyway. You get to do it at outdoor ranges only because they have to call a cease fire every so often anyway to let people fix/replace their targets. Rancho has no problem with you picking up the brass that falls on your side of the line though, which should be most of it. The IE is a huge region though, and I agree it would be nice to coordinate some events in other areas to encourage more participation. Right now, we have all new leadership for CGSSA in the IE region, so we are still sorting some things out. I personally think that having alternate locations, either on additional dates or as occasional substitutes for our regular monthly location, is something we can work towards in the future though. However, we are all volunteers and there is a lot of planning and coordiation involved with laying the groundwork for an event so it takes time. In the meantime if you can make it to any of the events, monthly shoots, show booths etc., that will always help. The more people we have the easier it will be to justify expansion and get it implemented.
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I attended one of the first ones and it is just too far. I know jaymz said not Riverside, but I see nothing wrong with that. For those of us in the Temecula/Murrieta/Menifee/etc. areas, that would still be about a 36 mile drive, but still much better than RC.
If that newly built range (Riverside Indoor Range IIRC) ever opens, that would be a good place to hold it. It is more in the middle than the present location. If that can't be made a new permanent location, alternating between it and RC would be an improvement at least for us in the Southwest IE. Unless Riverside Magnum has drastically improved the ventilation system since I moved from Riverside 7yrs. ago, I wouldn't recommend it. This will sound gross, but when I used to shoot there, I noted that any tissue I used to blow my nose after shooting, had a gray residue on it. I hate to think how much of that entered my lungs. Last edited by retired; 12-13-2013 at 5:08 PM.. |
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Pot luck 1hr before shoot so the men feel full! Worked Feb2013 in at Burro Canyon shoots!
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Over charging club members sucks! $10/night and the # will double or triple in 2-6 months!
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I'd like to see a couple rifles at a monthly shoot. RMR lets you use your AR, but what about others? Since we have an RSO in our group, would anybody be opposed to maybe finding somebody who's a member of west end gun club and trying to set up a shoot outdoors? I RSO'd at the zombie shoot in burro canyon last year & wouldn't mind doing it again. Maybe we can get a couple generators for lights or? Beaumont indoor shooting range lets you use rifles and handguns.
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This is not a direct reply to anyone in particular but to some of the things I see coming up multiple times:
I can appreciate that some people that want the shoot to move or rotate to other ranges (and that others do not want it to). But I need you all to understand it has been my experience so far that it is not easy to get ranges to work out a deal with us, unfortunately. These things may seem like they should be fast and easy to get done, but they in practise have not been. And also no matter what happens, unfortunately we will not be able to make everyone happy. Also I know people have favorite ranges or ranges that they are members at and on the flip side of the coin there are ranges that people have personal issues with but this is another thing that is almost impossible to take into consideration as its impossible to please everyone. When it comes to the fee I would much rather see 20 people at $10 then 10 people at $20 but that is how things are currently. It is important to note for the people that the fee is an issue with that currently CGSSA makes no profit off of the entrance fee to the event. And the reason the fee is more expensive than the normal 2 hour fee ($17, so $3 more) is that this is a private event held after hours. Also for 2 months now CGSSA has provided pizza free of cost to all who attend. The Tactical Zombie Shoot at Burro is an on going event for CGSSA. It was unfortunately cancelled this year. It might sound as easy as get some generators and lights and have a night shoot, but it is not. I (and CGSSA) have no desire in duplicating this event for the IE / competing against it, as it is a very large event that draws from all over Socal. (Anyways the SSZS is already technically held in the IE even though it is not an official event) But anyways this thread is not about creating new events. Also please do not attempt to contact ranges/stores on CGSSA's behalf. We do have an outdoor shoot in mind but that won't happen for a while. It will probably be a daytime shoot and informal (more like SSZS then Tactical Zombie Shoot), most likely at the Perris BLM, possibly a week or so after a cleanup. (I know people say lets do a cleanup and a shoot on the same day but IMO that's not a great idea for multiple reasons) But again this wont happen for a while. Trust us, we have thought about pretty much everything that has been mentioned and will consider anything that we didn't. This thread is to find if there was an issue that stuck out more than any other. So far no there has not been one obvious issue. Which is a good thing really. And please don't get me wrong, the event is very successful. Last month we had 20 people, which is great attendance and good times were had by all. The IE team just wants the Monthly shoot to be the best it can be. All I can say about the future at the moment is things are in works. And if everything works out it should be exciting for everyone. Edit: Side note about rifles: I know it isnt exactly what some of you are asking for but sometimes you have to work with what ya got. I was thinking about the next "competition" be for rimfire rifles... I'm sure people must have them, even though ammo is scarce. Is anyone interested in that? Last edited by Chaos47; 12-16-2013 at 5:03 AM.. |
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I'm game for a rimfire competition. And just to clarify, please don't take any of my posts as complaints. They were suggestions more than anything. I'm not opposed to keeping everything as it is, or changing it up. My work schedule dictates my attendance more than anything.
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I didn't take your replys nor anyone else's comments really as complaints.
My posts tend to come off more harsh then I mean them to sound. So, sorry about that. I am happy to hear people's ideas, if I wasn't I wouldn't have posted the thread. I just need people to understand that making even what seems to be the simplest change takes time. I was trying to hang back and not post replies to not stifle peoples ideas with rebuttals every other post. And to let you guys discuss things back and forth without my input like what happened with the lighting, air and brass concerns. Guess I should have posted more often because I ended up making one big post trying to address too many things at once haha. So don't worry, I'm not mad or offended. Just trying to make the event the best I can. Which can be stressful because I want to try to make as many people happy as I can and make the event successful. |
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Don't try too hard, your head will explode! Hopefully everybody here understands that the people running these events are volunteering the time required to facilitate everything, and that time far exceeds what we actually see being done. I'm sure there's plenty of behind the scenes work going on in order to make it all happen.
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I like what is happening with the IE shoot. Pizza before, Winchester/NRA qualification, instructor available...
If I'm not there I'm working/out of town. It's not a problem to pick up your brass. Bad ventilation was probably during remodel. Rim fire rifle competition works for me. I can go to the range anytime and I'm not particularly social. It is the competition, food (pizza before/dinner after) that brings me to the event. I would not travel to Temecula/Riverside for a IE shoot. If there is demand elsewhere, people in different locations should get with CGSSA to volunteer to head it up. Thanks to the new crew for stepping up and taking the time, putting in the effort to make the events happen! Last edited by Ewcmr2; 12-16-2013 at 7:40 AM.. |
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Absolutly nothing taken out of context, simply a couple ideas thrown out. I personally like the monthly meet where it's at. I would even attend if it were in riverside magnum range, while farther from the house, maybe more often. It's nice to get together with everybody & while I did not partake this time around in the pizza, it's nice to know there's something to snack on before we shoot. It's good to eat a bit before shooting, helps your aim. No joke, it helps ur blood pressure steady out for less bounce when ur going for this precision shots. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Right!! I like magnum range, both of them, however, if we incorporated a 22LR rifle shoot, it would give me more of an excusable excuse to go buy or build a 10/22 or something. I think I'd like to compete in the NRA stuff next shoot with the pistol. But I think rimfire rifles would be kinda cool. Even AR conversions into rimfire. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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If we do the competition with 22LR rifles I will make my Marlin 795 available for every one who does not have a 22LR rifle. I'll pick a target that is 10 rounds or less to save on ammo. It would be good if people could bring their own ammo but with things how they are right now its super hard to find even a box of 50. I don't remember the last time I saw 22LR on the shelf.
IMO Everyone should have a rimfire pistol and rifle. I have just as much fun with them as I do big calibers honestly. Trigger time is trigger time to me and small groups are allways fun! The NRA Winchester Pistol Qualification has been fun. I have glanced at some different portions for the future too. There is Defensive Pistol I&II. I think that Defensive Pistol I is doable at Rancho. But Defensive Pistol II you have to use a holster. Also there is highpower rifle and rimfire rifle qualifications too. But would need a longer range to do those at. |
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As far as finding ammo: Gunbot.net Slickguns.com Ammoseek.com Gunbroker.com And there are others, just gotta be patient then beat everybody to the buy lol I just picked up 100 rounds of Corbon .233 77gr match ammo for $5.75/box of 20 rounds. Normally it's $35/box. Try an order a week or local box/week plan and you'll always have ammo coming in and soon enough a nice stockpile. Defensive Pistol I think would be super fun, might look into a private range @ Burro Canyon for DP2 to draw from the holster? Only place I know of that you can do that but I'm sure there are others. However it's competitively priced @ $20/head last time I checked (6 mo) ago. I would love to do rifle stuff sometime right before or after summer when the weather isn't too unbearably hot out but not freezing either. Maybe start up a meet/shoot somewhere twice a year for those interested in those longer distance shots? Looks like my wife gave me permission to get a few more toys so if we do rimfire rifle then I should have a couple .22LR rifles that I'll lend out for the NRA stuff. I've got many ideas, and with my work schedule calming down a bit after the holidays I don't mind putting in a little effort to help out with some I.E. Stuff whether it be for the shoots or volunteer events. -Tom Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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