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do you have to be a resident of Orange county to apply and receive a ccw from O.C. and can you carry in a city Like Torrance where the Police chief is totally against the 2nd amendment and the right to carry.
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Applicants can apply to either their police chief or sheriff. Sheriffs however are required to accept all applications in their county. Once issued the license is valid in all of CA.

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do you have to be a resident of Orange county to apply and receive a ccw from O.C. and can you carry in a city Like Torrance where the Police chief is totally against the 2nd amendment and the right to carry.
You do have to be a full time resident. Otherwise we'd all already have CCWs from places like San Bernardino County. But once you have it, it allows carry anywhere in California.
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Local applicants seeking a permit to carry a concealed weapon now only have to say that they need one for self-defense or personal safety. A federal court decision paved the way for the loosening of rules for granting permits.
I was hoping this was going to happen here. time to get into a CCW class and a decent carry pistol.
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Kind of weird isn't it?

Either OC wants to issue, it's a money grab or they know it's not going to be challenged?

Does that sound about right or am I missing something?
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I used to live to in AZ, and carrying is no big deal. Whether its open carry, or concealed carry. Makes criminals think twice. In California there is still the stigma that guns are bad, no matter what. Slowly but surely this will be adapted into the norm of our society.

It will be also adapted to the selection process of thinking for criminals that every store clerk, soccer mom, grandma/grandpa, person leaving the gym, person using and atm, etc...could be armed now.

It [CCW] will be an effective tool of deterrence.
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Wow, awesome news!
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You forget Hutchens is the one that started yanking previously issued permits as soon as she got into office....so I wouldn't put it past her.

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About 30 mins ago I downloaded the CCW application from the OC Sherrifs website. Tomorrow I hope to fill it out and gather all the relevant info. I will turn it in by next week. From my sources I think its possible I could get one. Wont know till I try but this is the closest I will have got to obtaining one and I am sure as heck going to try!
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When will we break down the Moral Character Clause? I can see them approving for self defense now but denying for petty crimes and tickets.

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About 30 mins ago I downloaded the CCW application from the OC Sherrifs website. Tomorrow I hope to fill it out and gather all the relevant info. I will turn it in by next week. From my sources I think its possible I could get one. Wont know till I try but this is the closest I will have got to obtaining one and I am sure as heck going to try!

I'm assuming you have an appointment; that's when you turn in the application. They won't accept it if you drop it off.


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What do they mean by 2 recent passport photos? I've never had a passport in my life, what do I do get a passport?
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What do they mean by 2 recent passport photos? I've never had a passport in my life, what do I do get a passport?

No, passport size photos. Go to Costco or Kinko's and tell them you need passport photos. They take them for you and hand them over. I think WalMart also does it.


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$195 is only for first two years. When renewal price drop to $78, and you don't need to pay background check again, they keep that active. Beside, they don't charge the up-front.
Actually it's a lot more than that.

For Sacramento it was $200 for the class, $2000+ for three sets of handgun, holster, speedloader/magazines, HP Defensive ammo, $150 or so for the initial Sheriff fee.

Also you have practice and some IDPA matches.

The the renewal is another $200 class plus sheriff fees then $700 or so to sell one handgun that you find doesn't work and purchase another complete kit.

Sure you can get by for less but some people want to carry all they can.
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You forget Hutchens is the one that started yanking previously issued permits as soon as she got into office....so I wouldn't put it past her.
Did she actually yank permits or deny renewals?
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Are we required to list/qualify with 3 handguns or is that just for a maximum?
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Are we required to list/qualify with 3 handguns or is that just for a maximum?
That's the maximum with OC. You can initially list one or two if you like and add or swap them out later.
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Did she actually yank permits or deny renewals?
Both.
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Actually it's a lot more than that.

For Sacramento it was $200 for the class, $2000+ for three sets of handgun, holster, speedloader/magazines, HP Defensive ammo, $150 or so for the initial Sheriff fee.

Also you have practice and some IDPA matches.

The the renewal is another $200 class plus sheriff fees then $700 or so to sell one handgun that you find doesn't work and purchase another complete kit.

Sure you can get by for less but some people want to carry all they can.
Yes, I know. the $195 is just the licensing fee, for the first time. Not counting any other expense. Initial application in OC are around $500 mark when you add everything together.

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What do they mean by 2 recent passport photos? I've never had a passport in my life, what do I do get a passport?
CVS, Walgreens, Costco, your local AAA, UPS store, etc. etc. they all do passport photos and it comes with several sets for less than $10 and will be done in less than an hour.
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I just posted this in another thread just before I saw this one for OC, so sorry for that....For OC residents does this mean we have a very good chance at our CCW after what our sheriff has said recently ? I would like to apply ,but its a$200.00 gamble that would really hurt at this moment if denied. All though it seams to be plenty of time before getting an interview, and handing over the check. Also, I 'am a victim of a violent crime back in 1996,i know that's many years ago ,so I'm not sure if that holds any value any more for a CCW .

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FYI - OCSD website states to fill out sections 1-5 only and leave 6-8 for your inteview. Section 6-8 even say they are "Interviewers Notes" despite being alot of basic info that wouldn't require such notations.

Melissa Sota at OCSD CCW Unit sent me an email stating to fill out section 7 as well but not to sign or date any section that has a signature required. So, fill out everything but wait to sign and date at your appointment. Sounds like they have a bit of refining to do.

Shouldnt this thread get merged with the thread in LTC?
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You do have to be a full time resident. Otherwise we'd all already have CCWs from places like San Bernardino County. But once you have it, it allows carry anywhere in California.
I do not believe there is a requirement to be a full time resident. The law says that you must be a resident of the county (or city). I presume that you must spend a substantial portion of the year as a resident of the county (or city).
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I filled in Section 7 so lets see what happens. I'll even take a blank page to my interview just in case lol

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FYI - OCSD website states to fill out sections 1-5 only and leave 6-8 for your inteview. Section 6-8 even say they are "Interviewers Notes" despite being alot of basic info that wouldn't require such notations.

Melissa Sota at OCSD CCW Unit sent me an email stating to fill out section 7 as well but not to sign or date any section that has a signature required. So, fill out everything but wait to sign and date at your appointment. Sounds like they have a bit of refining to do.

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Just a quick note...


Follow the instructions on page 1 verbatim. Do not sign pages 3, 8, and 11. That happens at the Sheriff/sub station...also, everything non applicable needs a N/A thru the entire block.

I got my app, all excited and started filling it out, signed everything...silly me. I need to read the instructions more
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As of last night the CCW appointments have been pushed to 2PM on July 17th...

I figure it will give me plenty of time to fill out the app...
My request went in at 3:15 by email. My appointment is July 8 at 3:00 received this morning at 7:00 by email.

I cannot believe that there are more than perhaps 200 people who having read the article in the OC Register picked up the phone or emailed for an appointment yesterday. I could be wrong but it appears as if the OCSD is purposely delaying appointments. If they accepted only 2 per day starting yesterday, that would mean about 200 people are ahead of me. 2 apps per day though!
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I am not having luck getting a hold of anyone and the voice mail inbox is full at OCSD.
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I am not having luck getting a hold of anyone and the voice mail inbox is full at OCSD.
I was having the same issue yesterday. I emailed yesterday afternoon, and ended up getting a reply at 11:30PM last night with an appointment for the end of July.


I don't think there's any reason to wait on scheduling an appointment. If Peruta falls, you can cancel, or supplement your GC.
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I thought I read you can apply at your local city police, or does it have to be OCSD?

I'm guessing the local PD doesn't have the resources to process apps?
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I'm guessing the local PD doesn't have the resources to process apps?
You can if they have not made an agreement with the Sheriff pursuant to 26155 (c) PC http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...le=26150-26225

But unless they accept SD as GC apply with the Sheriff.
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The joke is on us. Both OCSD CCW appointment phone numbers are going straight to voicemail that is full this morning. They do forward to another voicemail box that is also full. I called for an hour and finally got through.

It's 2-21-14 and my appointment date to turn in my paperwork is 6-4-14.

3+ months to just turn in my app to request to exercise my 2nd amendment rights is absurd.
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My request went in at 3:15 by email. My appointment is July 8 at 3:00 received this morning at 7:00 by email.

I cannot believe that there are more than perhaps 200 people who having read the article in the OC Register picked up the phone or emailed for an appointment yesterday. I could be wrong but it appears as if the OCSD is purposely delaying appointments. If they accepted only 2 per day starting yesterday, that would mean about 200 people are ahead of me. 2 apps per day though!
OH, you think that they are "rushing" resources to accommodate? (lol) You have to realize, a week ago, OC had issued only a HANDFUL of permits in a county of 3 million. They probably have no full time people working on this and it's a bit of an after thought. This may change, but don't count on it. The court said they have to issue CCW's (for now), but they didn't say how fast.
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Mail the application now with the first check USPS certified return receipt. Get the clock ticking...
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June 4th date here.
only one person in today answering phones, keep trying, you'll get through.
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Wow I emailed yesterday and was given July 8th? What shenanigans are they trying to pull down there? I'll concede that perhaps they are overwhelmed but it doesn't seem logical that they would be jumping around giving different appointment dates.
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