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Old 07-01-2009, 1:23 PM
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I almost made up my mind on savage! Hmmmm now more thinking & deciding to do...
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Old 07-01-2009, 1:26 PM
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I know I am jinxing myself by saying this, but my 10-22 has generally been more reliable than the savages I shoot against at APS.
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ar15barrels,
How is your 10/22 set up? Maybe I will forget about bolt and use my money on the 10/22 i already have? I know there's a problem with heavy barrel drooping on 10/22. Do you want to share your 10/22 details? Stock, bedded, trigger, barrel & etc... Experience any barrel droop issue?
I think I will go out in August to shoot with you guys.
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The problems with the Savage is easy to fix. Its the cheap, stamped magazines that come apart and dont sit consistently in the mag well. I fixed mine by spot welding the parts together and layering a LOT of paint on to build up the width. The gun runs a LOT better now.

Also a lot of guys run the bolt like a full-sized 308 with its long throw and heavy rounds... if you do that you WILL have feeding issues. Those tiny little 22 rounds will go bouncing around in the chamber and jam. Slow down a little bit and things will run smoother.
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Where is your local rimfire tactical precision match held?
Same as yours: "A Place to Shoot" in Saugus. We've shot together a couple of times, so I know who you are. You probably don't associate "Davinho" with my name and face. I'm Dave, goatee, usually a broad brimmed hat and tigerstrip BDU pants, all black CZ-452 Silhouette rifle with an adjustable cheekrest and a Falcon Optics scope. Took third in September, much to my surprise. Usually hanging out with James, AKA "rimfirejunky".
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Old 07-01-2009, 3:06 PM
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How is your 10/22 set up?
It's not your dad's 10-22...



Green mountain 20" stainless fluted barrel.
B&C Anschutz Thumbhole stock, cleranced to truly float the barrel.
Added flush cups for the sling.
Added a stud for the bipod.
Harris S-BRM bipod.
TI M24 cuff sling.
Nikon Buckmaster 4-14 mil-dot scope
Game Reaper one piece mount, but I cut 20moa into the base.
Volquartsen hammer and my own extensive re-working of the stock trigger parts to include adding several set screws and about every trick you can find to make the stock parts work better.
Power custom charging handle with a ground guide rod.
I ramped the bolt and pinned the firing pin down.

The only thing I have left to do to this gun is to cut the barrel back a couple inches and thread the receiver & barrel together.
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Maybe I will forget about bolt...
Long live the Semi Auto Brotherhood.
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Old 07-01-2009, 3:14 PM
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so you are not experiencing any barrel droop with free float? yeah, i think i am going to forget about the bolt
I also heard that ruger's aluminum receiver is not storng enough to hold the heavy barrel when you thread the barrel into receiver. One of the reason i wanted to find a bolt was that i did not want to deal with these issues with 10/22 but it seems bolt has its own problemos. Mine shoots fine with 16" bull barrel out to 50 yards. I tried shooting steel target at 100 yards when I was at angeles shooting range last time and once the hold over was determined it was way too easy to shoot the steel target at 100 (not sure how big it was)
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so you are not experiencing any barrel droop with free float?
If I am, I don't know how they are manifesting themselves.
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Amen brother Randall. Once you go semi you never go back !!!


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Randall, you have a light barrel, I wouldn't expect it to droop much, if at all. I have a heavy ruger bull barrel, and I fixed the droop problem by shimming the barrel and putting in an adjustable v-block. Worked out great.
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Just get a Savage, a EGW rail, a good set of rings and scope ad be done with it. Buy the time you buy all the extra parts you're going to need to make the 10/22 run competivley and smoothly you can completely outfit a Savage and get a few bricks of ammo.
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Just get a Savage, a EGW rail, a good set of rings and scope ad be done with it. Buy the time you buy all the extra parts you're going to need to make the 10/22 run competivley and smoothly you can completely outfit a Savage and get a few bricks of ammo.
Buy you will still have a Savage...
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Buy you will still have a Savage...
And we all know how I've ragged Savage centerfires in the past . . . but they hit a winner in this little niche of ours with their Mark II series B models. Affordable and accurate straight from the box without the need for barrels, triggers, stocks, tuning etc. Put on a EGW rail and you're ready to go. You can't say that with a comperably priced 10/22.

As to the feeding issues I've drug mine all over APTS setting up this whole affair and have never had a problem. There was a learning curve when I first got mine but once I realized I couldn't run it like I would Savannah any issues
I thought I was having were history. From what I've expereienced and seen during the matches most jams are operator error or caused by getting grit in the action (which happens with 10/22s as well). With enough practice you learn its feel and can run it just as fast as you want.
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Same as yours: "A Place to Shoot" in Saugus. We've shot together a couple of times, so I know who you are. You probably don't associate "Davinho" with my name and face. I'm Dave, goatee, usually a broad brimmed hat and tigerstrip BDU pants, all black CZ-452 Silhouette rifle with an adjustable cheekrest and a Falcon Optics scope. Took third in September, much to my surprise. Usually hanging out with James, AKA "rimfirejunky".
Don't bring me into this... I've noticed a serious decline in my performance recently. I attribute it to too many travel and/or beer-heavy weekends to get in any practice.

Besides you've been doing too many track days on that murdercycle of yours to come play at the range whenever I've been able to grab a few spare hours.

BTW, I would trade track days with range days in a heart beat if I could. Not that I have time for either right now...
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Old 07-02-2009, 1:42 PM
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Since my 10/22 needs maybe a replacement barrel only I think I should go ahead and shoot with 10/22 for awhile I get some money to buy a Savage (or CZ). I currently have 16" bull barrel and tried to look for 20" fluted GM barrel and was not able to locate anyone who stocks them. Anybody shot ER Shaw 10/22 barrels? It seems ER Shaw barrels are available in 18" fluted stainless in some places. Are they comparable to GM barrels in accuracy?
Thanks for your help guys!
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Try a Clark mid weight barrel. A HB is not needed.

http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/riflepts.htm#barrels
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OK, Just to keep this thread going...here's an update.
I was able to find a used 20" GM fluted SS barrel and waiting for it to arrive. (Those GM barrels were hard to find now!) My 10/22 already has reworked trigger, auto bolt release & reworked bolt. I am going to use ruger 10/22 deluxe stock, bedded to free float the barrel. Still need to get 20moa base, rings and better glass. Currently it has power custome base, burris zee rings & simmons ATV 4-14 scope on it. I will save up some more for bolt action. I have not decided on what yet... now Sako Quad in 22lr seems like another option
Thanks everyone for oyur help & advices. I hope to join you guys for 22 match soon.
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Added a pic of where it stands now with new GM barrel with 10/22T stock.

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Old 07-27-2009, 3:42 PM
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So now I have a super sniper coming my way and need some help mounting scope. I think I am going to get EGW or Rimfiretech's 20 MOA base and Burris XTR rings. Which ring height do I need to get? Any other ring/base combination that's working for your 10/22 long range rig?
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So now I have a super sniper coming my way and need some help mounting scope. I think I am going to get EGW or Rimfiretech's 20 MOA base and Burris XTR rings. Which ring height do I need to get? Any other ring/base combination that's working for your 10/22 long range rig?
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You won't need a 20MOA rail with a Super Sniper - it has more than enough elev/windage adjustment to get you to 200 and beyond with a std base.
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Old 07-27-2009, 4:19 PM
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I see. I have power custom base, would that be good enough? Wha height ring shoul I get?
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Old 07-27-2009, 9:31 PM
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I'm not familiar with that base so I can't comment - but as long as it will hold your rings sturdy probably yes. As to ring height I'm guessing mediums. IIRC SSnipers have a 42mm bell.
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Good thread. I'm chuckling to myself as I have a modified 10/22 and a Savage Mk II (had the feed issue but fixed it by modding the mags). They both shoot bugholes, but for the Tactical matches I prefer the 10/22. In certain stages the semi-autos have a definite advantage IME.
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