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Harbor Freight Cheap Tumbler Results
My first batch of HXP through the $49.00 Harbor Freight Special. I have tumbled quite a bit of pistol brass through it and it turns out fine but I wondered if the small size would compromise the results when tumbling larger brass. I am pretty happy, this HXP was filthy, lots of carbon and picked up out of the dirt.
If you are a newbie and can't afford the $200.00+ for a large tumbler, don't be afraid to try the cheap Harbor Freight tumbler, it works fine. The only real downside is that you can only do two pounds at a time, which meant 76 .30-06. But for small volume, the Harbor Freight seems to do the trick.
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How long do you have to let it tumble?
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Yup Capy, your results are not unusual. I've run .223 & .308 brass through my Habor Freight tumbler with the same results.
All I used was 1LB of stainless steel media in each drum along with some dishwasher soap and Lemishine. I even did it without Lemishine and had the same results. I also ran each batch about an hour. I found no difference in letting it run for more time than an hour. It's a great value item and with the warranty options, it's even better. |
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1534 9mm cases 1300 40 sw cases 1014 45 acp cases 962 223/5.56 cases 520 308 cases at once! For me, I am either going cheap (may buy one more Harbor Freight Tumbler) or I will go for a Big Dawg 8" Medium. One thing I like better about the Harbor Freight Tumblers though is because they have two smaller drums, I can run a load of 9mm and a load of .45 ACP at the same time. If you are a last minute kind of reloader, like you reload one weekend to shoot it all the next weekend, I could see having one or two Harbor Freights could be the hot tip. But if you like to do all of your brass prep at once, say over 1,000 rounds, the Big Dawg is the way to go. To me, the Tumlers value equation doesn't quite work although the quality over the HF tumbler is undoubtedly much better.
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Yea there was a thread here about 20 of us jumped on them. Didn't see any negative reports really. Great little tumbler for the price!
I love mine. Just a b**h to get the lid off. But I'd rather have it too tight than too loose and fall off and leak all over. |
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The drums are small, but you can still crank out quite a bit of brass through it. Since Monday I have tumbled 1,000 cases of .223, and 600 cases of .308 for my personal use, as well as 500 cases of .223, and 1000 cases of .40S&W for the VC clinic on this coming Sunday. That is 6 one gallon zip lock bags packed full of brass in 3.5 days. It is a good little tumbler, but I personal thing I am ready to step up to a bigger tumbler for mass processing. I will still use the HF tumbler for small batch stuff and to supplement the larger tumbler.
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$45 before tax and shipping is not a terrible price. I'm going to pick one up tomorrow to go with my stainless tumbler. I hate wet tumbling after the lube/size step when it really just needs a nice wipe off.
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Mine worked real nice too, even better when I switched to the bigger pins that Stilly sells. I just got the Thumler at a good price used, and man, that sucker will do a lot of brass at one time, about 1,200 9mm cases at one time. I'm catching up on all the brass that has been sitting in my closet for 20 years dirty. I don't Lemishine until after I rinse and separate the stainless pins, because Lemishine is not good for the pins. I let the clean brass soak in warm water with Lemishine for 20 minutes, then rinse again, roll in a beach towel to get most of the water, and bake for 30 at 205 degrees. It comes out dry and shiny.
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I've got the same setup and the same results using 1lb stainless media, dash of Dawn, dash of Lemishine, and top with tap hot water in each drum. Let it run about an hour then hand clean.
I used to let them dry on paper towels. My latest batch was baking in oven for 40 minutes at 175F. Each drum fits 100 pistol rounds(45) or 50 rifle rounds(6.8). Probably spent more on the media than the tumbler. |
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I have a HF tumbler also, I use their walnut media. I'm pretty happy with it I have not experimented with wax but I have shot some metal polish in the mix. It clumps up though so no go in the future.
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1) Walnut media with a cap full of nufinish. Media can be used many times. or 2) Stainless steel pins, water, dawn dish soap, and a dash of lemishine. The lemishine is acidic so don't go crazy or it could mess up the brass and/or continue to eat at it after your done. |
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Read this article about why you should not run Lemishine (Citric Acid) with the SS pins.
http://www.finishing.com/466/18.shtml Also, some users have said that the Lemishine in the wash cycle made some of the brass discolor compared to using it as a separate step. I have tried it both ways, and my cases come out much more shiny if I just use Dawn in the wash cycle, and soak in Lemishine after.
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if you are getting discoloration you are using way too much lemishine. I been using the dawn lemishine combo for more than a year and never had issues with brass or the pins.
Since ive used the tumbler, ive reduced the tumbling time from 1 hour to just 30 minutes and it comes out just as shiny so i stopped doing it for so long. |
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I run whatever dish soap we have (think Costco brand), cold water, and half a tsp of Lemi. Run in my thumler's for an hour, then rinse. They are super shiny at that point. Afterwards, a quick towel off, they bake at 200 degrees for an hour. Usually after a bake, they aren't as shiny, but they are very clean. At that point, I don't care if I can't see my reflection, just knowing that it's clean and will shoot well keeps me happy enough.
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I've used a pair of those for about 3 months now and they work great. I load up 100 pieces of .223 in each drum and let them roll for about 2 hours. I just recently bought a Thumblers model B so I've since retired them. If anyone wants my two tumblers, PM me and I'll work out a deal for the pair.
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or http://www.harborfreight.com/dual-dr...ler-67632.html |
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I use the harbor freight tumbler for my brass with stainless media. My results are far better with stainless than with walnut and much cleaner. For anyone reading this that is interested, save yourself the time and money and buy the double drum model. The single works just fine but gets tedious when processing lots of brass.
As for the lemishine, start with less and figure out how much works best for you. I've over-done it before and ended up with discoloring. I've also used less than I should and had less shine on the brass. Once you get the right combo (as I'm sure most people here know), you'll be amazed at the results. |
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I bought this one at harbor freight, shouldn't have any issues I hope? http://m.harborfreight.com/5-lb-meta...ler-67617.html
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I also went to Petco for the Lizard bedding: http://www.petco.com/product/102881/...e-Bedding.aspx |
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I also use the HF rotary tumbler with stainless media. The results are consistently good. I tumble with the dawn and just a touch of lemishine.
The brass does tarnish quickly using this method alone. I have my ocd tenancies... I found that after separating the media and brass, I put a decent dash of lemishine in a deep Ziploc container (the rectangle ones that are probably 4" deep.) and fill it with an inch or two of cold water. Dump the brass in, give it a shake, and let it sit for a few minutes. Then drain and shake most all the water out of the brass and lay out to air dry. The brass seems to stay brighter longer. I also keep deprimed, cleaned and dried brass in gallon ziplock bags sorted by caliber and headstamp. The primer pockets never get completely clean. Anyone have any Ideas? Otherwise I'll just accept it until I can justify a thumbler. |
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