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For those that have fired 100+ rounds through your PF940C, are you noticing a very slight front to back play with the trigger housing?
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For those that have fired 100+ rounds through your PF940C, are you noticing a very slight front to back play with the trigger housing?
I've got 700 through mine and don't notice any play.
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Little over 1k rounds on mine and zero issues.

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What type of round do you use and which manufacturer? Also, did you file the top side of the rear rail or the bottom side (which is probably more difficult to get to)?

I just built mine but have yet to test fire. I can tell that the rear rails are thicker than the front and when I rack the slide back and forth, it has resistance not just because of the spring but due to the thick rear rail, especially comparing it to real glock. Last thing, the overall fit is tight between the slide and poly frame compared to a real glock. I don't see any clash but if I file the upper surface of the rear rail, this could create clash issues with slide and frame.

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Sharpie is a good idea. On my full size, it was sliding well but after a day of shooting (200 rds), the dirty oil showed where it was still rubbing so used a file to fine tune it (not that it really needed it).

The rear rail on the compact is stamped steel and bent to fit. I have 2 kits and 1 had clean edges but the other had noticeable edges that were pretty sharp. I filed the edges down so they were more rounded and then I polished both rear rails.

My AA .22lr kit fits perfect on the front block but the G19 slide needed the width trimmed just a bit.

I had cycling issues with the AA kit with Federal and CCI SV but Win M22 and Stingers were flawless. I have since ordered and received some Rem GB (recommended by AA) but haven't had a chance to get to the range yet. I did polish the extractor and barrel to see if that helps with standard velocity rounds. I'm not a fan of guns that are picky with ammo so I'd like to fine tune them rather than accept that I have to buy specific ammo.

The G19 is flawless but the slide is out for cerakoting. Hopefully, it'll be back in my grubby little hands by the end of the week or early next week.
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Do you guys have a paper thin gap between the very top rear of the trigger housing (the squared off polymer area) and the frame, or is it completely flush?
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Cool, thanks Bobby. The small gap I'm talking about is shown in Nguyen's photo from page 1 of this thread.
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I have a 30274 trigger housing on my G19 and a 336 on my AA .22lr. Both trigger housings sit flush to the frame. My G17 with a 30274 sits flush too.
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I was shooting Rem UMC 115g and Speer 124g. On my G17 (full size), I used a HF needle file that fits perfectly inside the rail channel (bottom).

There's much less slop on the G19 than the G17.
Thanks!

Agree, much tighter fit up for sure and they should have designed a metal rail on the full frame from the get go, like the real glock. Hoefully the rear rail is a bit thinner.
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Thanks!

Agree, much tighter fit up for sure and they should have designed a metal rail on the full frame from the get go, like the real glock.
The thing is, if they go too far with the frame, the ATF will call it a firearm and disapprove it.

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IMO the rails are a little thicker and a little longer than they need to be, but from everything I've seen and heard so far, they are not thick enough to be the sole cause of a slide that won't move freely. (You can easily check this for yourself. Do the rear rails by themselves move freely in the slide channels)?

Rather, the binding seems to be caused by slight vertical misalignment between the left and right side of the rear rail module, or if the rear rails are bent the same, between the rear rails and the front rails.

If your slide is binding, it may be because one of the rear rails is bent only to 85 degrees (or something like that) rather than 90 degrees, causing one side to be higher than the other, or both rear rails may be bent to 85 degrees rather than 90 degrees.
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The thing is, if they go too far with the frame, the ATF will call it a firearm and disapprove it.



IMO the rails are a little thicker and a little longer than they need to be, but from everything I've seen and heard so far, they are not thick enough to be the sole cause of a slide that won't move freely. (You can easily check this for yourself. Do the rear rails by themselves move freely in the slide channels)?

Rather, the binding seems to be caused by slight vertical misalignment between the left and right side of the rear rail module, or if the rear rails are bent the same, between the rear rails and the front rails.

If your slide is binding, it may be because one of the rear rails is bent only to 85 degrees (or something like that) rather than 90 degrees, causing one side to be higher than the other, or both rear rails may be bent to 85 degrees rather than 90 degrees.
On my first RRM, the left and right sides seemed like they were bent to 90 degrees but different angles front to rear, if that makes sense.

If you put it rail down on a flat surface, it rocked a bit like a wobbly chair.
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The thing is, if they go too far with the frame, the ATF will call it a firearm and disapprove it.

IMO the rails are a little thicker and a little longer than they need to be, but from everything I've seen and heard so far, they are not thick enough to be the sole cause of a slide that won't move freely. (You can easily check this for yourself. Do the rear rails by themselves move freely in the slide channels)?

Rather, the binding seems to be caused by slight vertical misalignment between the left and right side of the rear rail module, or if the rear rails are bent the same, between the rear rails and the front rails.

If your slide is binding, it may be because one of the rear rails is bent only to 85 degrees (or something like that) rather than 90 degrees, causing one side to be higher than the other, or both rear rails may be bent to 85 degrees rather than 90 degrees.
Not too familiar with the rules in detail but I assume they got approval for the PF940C.

These are good ways to check. Hate being a guinea pig...

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Thanks.

I wonder what Glock Inc. think of all this. On one hand, p80 is getting probably a little bit of the Glock pie but on the other hand, I'm pretty sure they are happy with the sudden increase of uppers sold.
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Not too familiar with the rules in detail but I assume they got approval for the PF940C.

These are good ways to check. Hate being a guinea pig...
If we think of all of this "extra" work is just part of the 20% to finish, it makes it seem a bit more reasonable.

I just took the suggestion to use a sharpie to determine where the 19/23 uppers were rubbing and did some filing to the fronts and tops of the back rails only and have the factory slides working really well on the bench so that part is sorted.

Then I found that the mag well would not "drop free" my old 40 S&W magazines (they are older metal lined type) granted they are a bit swollen since they have been loaded to about 80% capacity for some time but they still dropped free in the factory frames.

I disassembled the P80 again and did some work with a Dremel, sanding drum, files, Scotch Bright, steel wool and WD40. Mag's drop free now as intended, factory slides operate smoothly. It still needs testing at the range but I think it may actually be 100%.
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Old 04-19-2017, 1:09 PM
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It looks like the prices on G22 slides is starting to drop a bit on eBay. It might be a good time to grab one before the next Poly80 release.
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Old 04-19-2017, 4:14 PM
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I completed mine last week but still have problems. Initially, when I rack full, I can feel resistance and it's definitely from the rear slides being a little thicker. I filed underneath and much better now BUT still have some significant resistance. It's about 1/4" slide when I notice the resistance to happen. It feels like something in the trigger assembly hitting against something. I assembled both PF940 and PF940C, no issues on the 940 just on the 940C. Anyone know what's going on?
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I completed mine last week but still have problems. Initially, when I rack full, I can feel resistance and it's definitely from the rear slides being a little thicker. I filed underneath and much better now BUT still have some significant resistance. It's about 1/4" slide when I notice the resistance to happen. It feels like something in the trigger assembly hitting against something. I assembled both PF940 and PF940C, no issues on the 940 just on the 940C. Anyone know what's going on?
Is the slide stop spring sitting high in the frame? I have seen some that aren't pressed all the way in and sit high, causing some resistance (against the action spring) at that point. You should be able to see some scuffing on the slide stop spring if that is the case.
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I got mine last week. I do not have a drill press and vice, so I just use hand drill, files, and sand paper. I assemblied it, and the slide did not return to its original position smoothly. I oiled it up a bit and racked the slide a couple hundred times. The slide move a bit better now if I hold the gun muzzle up but not muzzle down. Any suggest?
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I forgot to mention that mine is a PF940Cv1 smooth grip
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OK, after browsing previous replies on the thread, I think mine has a bigger rear too. I will try to do something about it tonight.
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I did have to file and polish the back rails a bit. And LUBE... TONS OF LUBE to start.

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Anyone having issues with glock 23 magazines not dropping free? G19 mags are fine.
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I happen to have a spare gen 4 G19 slide assembly. Is it possible to modify the P80 PF940C to work with a Gen 4 slide? I know I would have to change out the spring.
Should be if you open up the radius on the dust cover and get the guide rod adapter
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Just ordered one today... we will see how she works..
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My readymod frame still not cycle well, but my textured one do. I tested it today at San Leandro Rifle and Pistol range. It runs OK, but the trigger pin moved out a little bit after about 150 rounds.
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Waiting for my frame. Very excited to get started.
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I tested it today at San Leandro Rifle and Pistol range. It runs OK, but the trigger pin moved out a little bit after about 150 rounds.
So I take it the San Leandro range didn't have any issues with you shooting it there? I've run into range masters there that make up rules on the fly to keep you from shooting any firearms they aren't familiar with. One of them disallowed my AR pistol because "if you can't shoulder it, you can't fire it on the rifle lane".
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None that I can honestly think of. You can set whatever serial number you like being as you're the manufacturer, as long as it's unique to you.
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These guys are in Sylmar. Is that close enough?
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These guys are in Sylmar. Is that close enough?
https://www.atomicengraving.com/contact-us/
Oh that's perfect!!!! Thank you!!!! Needed someone close.

On a side note, just finished my compact. Other than having to tweak the rear rail insert to be square, this was one stupid simplpe mill job! Took me 25 minutes start to finish. Now to save up some money, need to buy a slide, barrel, slide parts kit and ghost trigger connector. It never ends!
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anyone in the la area know of someone who will engrave serial near by?
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Anyone try using number and letter punches on the stainless strip for the serial number?
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I would think they would be both too large to fit all the required information (name/city-state/serial number) and would damage the thin stainless strip when you went deep enough to satisfy the .03 depth requirement.
Oh I was just thinking of doing the serial on that plate and the other info on the slide. I doubt I can fit all the required info on that little plate. What was the required minimum size the numbers/letters had to be?
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1/16 of an inch. Pretty sure all the information needs to be on the fame/serial numbered part
That's going to be tough. My first and last name is 17 letters combined. City, state, caliber, model and serial. I highly doubt I can fit all that on such a small plate.
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Is model number optional?
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Anyone know which magwell will fit the compact? Tried Taran tactical carry magwell and it won't fit.
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Anyone know which magwell will fit the compact? Tried Taran tactical carry magwell and it won't fit.
Got your pm but thought I'd post here as others might be interested.

The Zev magwell fits w/o modifying the frame. It's not a perfect fit but when tightened down, it doesn't move. There's a bit of space on either side and if the back screw hole on the grip was about 2mm higher, it would fit better. Also, when tightening the screw, the grip will bow in at the screw about a mm. With the magwell, my hand is a tight fit on the grip and better control, IMO.

I don't live in CA so I'm not limited to (or have) 10rd mags so I can't say. I use Magpul 15rd mags and have not had any issues. I have some AA 22lr mags and they fit with no issues.

SLR Rifleworks also makes a magwell and they're on sale this weekend. They have one for G19 gen3 and gen4, g17 gen3 and gen4. I have no idea which would fit and they're out of stock in g19.3. I would guess they all fit to varing degrees.
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Got your pm but thought I'd post here as others might be interested.

The Zev magwell fits w/o modifying the frame. It's not a perfect fit but when tightened down, it doesn't move. There's a bit of space on either side and if the back screw hole on the grip was about 2mm higher, it would fit better. Also, when tightening the screw, the grip will bow in at the screw about a mm. With the magwell, my hand is a tight fit on the grip and better control, IMO.

I don't live in CA so I'm not limited to (or have) 10rd mags so I can't say. I use Magpul 15rd mags and have not had any issues. I have some AA 22lr mags and they fit with no issues.

SLR Rifleworks also makes a magwell and they're on sale this weekend. They have one for G19 gen3 and gen4, g17 gen3 and gen4. I have no idea which would fit and they're out of stock in g19.3. I would guess they all fit to varing degrees.
Thanks! I decided to go with the Taran Tactical Carry G19 gen3 magwell. Have one on my G19 and absolutely love it. It looks like the front lip just needs some rounding off for the Taran magwell to fit. I'll give it a go when it arrives and report back.
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So I take it the San Leandro range didn't have any issues with you shooting it there? I've run into range masters there that make up rules on the fly to keep you from shooting any firearms they aren't familiar with. One of them disallowed my AR pistol because "if you can't shoulder it, you can't fire it on the rifle lane".
They didn't ask.....they didn't even look at it.
So far, I shot my PF940C frame there twice. The trigger pin still move out a bit after 100 ~ 150 rounds. I took a look at the frame and realized that I enlarged the trigger pin hole on one side of the frame, so I think that causes the trigger pin to move.
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