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Old 07-02-2011, 11:33 PM
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Default RRA pistol buffer tube on ar15 rifle lower

I am thinking about doing a funky setup on my AR15. I am thinking about puting a RRA pistol buffer tube on my ar15 and taking of my A2 stock. The barrell length is 16 inches, can i legal do this or does it have to have to have a stock. i know it sounds funky but i just wanted to see if it was possible. thanks
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:44 PM
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I'm sure as long as the 30"oal was maintained, it should be ok. I'm not 100% though.
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if you want a short ar 15 without a stock, get a pistol lower and put a short upper on it.
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as stated, if the Over All Length is 30in or over, then you can do it.

I really dont see why? If given the option, Im sure those of us who own AR pistols would put stocks on them in a heart beat instead of a bare buffer extension.
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Concept marketed by Franklin Armory, discussed to death in this thread. Not a good idea to do this to an existing rifle IMHO. You may also want to get your own letter from ATFE given the potential legal issues before you build one - or, better yet, wait until the issues have been cleared to build one.
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If you already have an A2 stock, simply remove the stock and run it with just the buffer tube. Save yourself some time & money (no need to spend an additional $60+ buying a carbine length buffer tube, buffer & spring)

And when you realize "this sucks", you can easily re-install the A2 stock
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If you already have an A2 stock, simply remove the stock and run it with just the buffer tube. Save yourself some time & money (no need to spend an additional $60+ buying a carbine length buffer tube, buffer & spring)

And when you realize "this sucks", you can easily re-install the A2 stock
this. Why you would spend money on such a stupid idea is beyond me.
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If that's something you're considering doing, why not just pick up a Franklin Armory XO-26?



"The XO-26 is a cross over between rifles and pistols. The 26 refers to the absolute minimum length of the firearm as allotted by federal law. However, we chose to make the length an inch longer than necessary so that it would still be long enough to qualify as a non-AOW even if the muzzle device was removed. This length also makes it easier to see the chamber indication. " (Taken from Franklin Armory's website)
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I think you guys are missing something here, OP already has an AR, which I think we can assume is a LONG GUN and has a barrel over 16in.

You dont have to have a "proper stock" on a LONG GUN, but ONCE AGAIN

as long as your semi auto centerfire rifle is OVER 30in, there is no issue.

As asinine as this idea is, nothing wrong with it provided over all length minimum is met or exceeded
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Why not an Ace Ultralight shorty stock? I have a 14.5" with fixed comp + Ace shorty stock, measures 30.75"....pretty damm close to as short as you can go and still be a rifle...

http://riflestocks.com/store/product96.html
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Why would You want to do that? Over all pull sucks *** with the rra tube. The a2 tube would be better, and a stock even better. Unless You are using a short barreled upper a pistol lower sucks.
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Well I was going to go the pistol route but something came up and it got complicated real quick. Now i have this RRA pistol buffer tube and i just wanted to see what some people thought about my crazy idea. I will just hold on to it for a future build.
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I just puked in my mouth a little.
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Do it, post pics and even more people will tell you it sucks.

Me I just run Bushmaster stubby stocks on my RAW AR's and like the nice compact solid feel you get.
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Well, the RRA tube is not what I would pick, the Spikes setup uses a castle nut so it is compatible with things like the Magpul ASAP sling attachment and PWS makes a nice one that is enhanced to eliminate carrier tilt issues on gas piston ARs.
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If you already have an A2 stock, simply remove the stock and run it with just the buffer tube. Save yourself some time & money (no need to spend an additional $60+ buying a carbine length buffer tube, buffer & spring)

And when you realize "this sucks", you can easily re-install the A2 stock
This right here. ^^^
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Well I was going to go the pistol route but something came up and it got complicated real quick. Now i have this RRA pistol buffer tube and i just wanted to see what some people thought about my crazy idea. I will just hold on to it for a future build.

Yeah, just hang onto it til You get a short barreled upper. I have a spikes 10.5 upper on a pistol lower with rra tube, and the only reason is legality. For a 16" stock all the way. It isn't too bad shooting off of sandbags, but the over all pull of a pistol lower blows shooting offhand.
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