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All I can say is support the NRA/CRPA suit Villanueva v. Becerra and hopefully this nonsense will be quashed. Otherwise, I hope that you have at least 10K rounds to help take out the f***king libtards when the try and take our weapons. Last edited by BAJ475; 09-24-2017 at 11:08 PM.. Reason: correct typo |
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Having a few extra assigned numbers is a solid idea! However, the form does say "Firearm Information" and "Up to three firearms can be listed on this application." You are signing under penalty of perjury so you may want to have the completed 80% (i.e. finished receivers) to go with however many numbers you request. I would hate to see a bunch of documents being filed by folks saying that their 80% receivers are firearms. But that may just be the conspiracy theorist in me being crazy... Last edited by timthetank; 09-25-2017 at 6:40 AM.. |
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Playing devil's advocate here because I would much rather you be right! |
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That's the theoretical explanation. Now for the factual one: There's no law that says you have to make the firearm on the date that they made you predict. And it's not perjury to make a best guess now and change your mind later.
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Regarding the "up to three serials" parts, it says you can attach additional applications to the first one, to get more serials
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Regarding where it was made, I take it I should put the address of my shop rather than where I live (they're different).
Regarding materials, how specific should I be? 6061 aluminum (lower), 7075 aluminum (upper), S7 tool steel (or whatever the trigger is), fiberglass reinforced polymer (handguard, buttstock), tungsten (buffer weights)... should I list every last item?
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The DOJ sure has set this registration up so there are many traps to to bust the law abiding gun owner. Sadly, if a person registers and makes one mistake, you could potentially be guilty of a Feliny, good by guns forever.
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They say to use the location where it was manufactured. So ya, use your shop location if that's where you made it.
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Keep it simple
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positive interaction with Cal DOJ firearms
I had a positive interaction with Cal DOJ while registering:
Issue: (Assault Weapon Reg.) Other, my issue is not listed. Submitted: 09/21/2017 03:21 PM George ____said (initial issue report): CRIS Number: _____________ I erroneously checked the box that the firearm is less than 30 in in length. I verified, and it is actually 30.5 inch. Do I need to re-register and pay the fee, or can you correct my error? DOJ Response (09/27/2017 10:24 AM): Hi George, I made your application incomplete so you can change the characteristics. You do not need to re-register and pay a fee. |
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For the record, NEVER check the "under 30 inches" checkbox. Doing so would be admitting that you possessed (best case scenario) an unregistered AW before 2017 which is a CA felony, or (worst case scenario) an SBR which is a federal felony. If your rifle is under 30", keep your mouth shut and make it 30" before you register. Under no circumstances should that box ever be checked. That's why I drew a big red line through it and wrote in big red letters "Do Not Select!" in the guide.
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I did not know the exact length and wanted to err on the short side (more assault-looking). I did not know that 30 inch was the minimum allowed
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But thank you for the guide. Without it, I would not have known that <30 inch could not be registered, and my registration would have been rejected. |
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Or worse. Glad to hear it worked out well, and good to know that you can request your app to be opened for editing again after submitting it, I didn't know that was a possibility
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apologies if the following info is dupe:
You cannot change anything in your registration application once you hit submit. To correct any error, do not use "contact us;" I did not get a reply for 2 weeks. Use "report an issue," and they will change your application status to "incomplete" so you can go in and make changes to it. |
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Article 1 section 10 clause 1 : No state shall...pass any...ex post facto Law.
If your rifle was legally +30" in 2016, and is now -30" because of the new regulations, you would be able to register it with or without a BB.
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I agree - Still, don't check the box.
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OK just so I'm clear.
If I have home builds both rifle and pistol without a serial I need to get serial #s form DOJ and then register? **Sorry I'm so lost even with the guides. I might need a guide for guides |
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1) Volreg and then use that serial number to register as AW (this has not been proven to work yet, still waiting to see if it works) 2) Submit the DOJ 1008 form, get a serial and have it all approved, then register as AW using that serial number. Problem with #2 is you need to wait for them to issue, and the serial will be something they choose. You also need to mark it according to their standards. Advantage of #1 (if it works) is that you can mark it how you like, use a number you choose, and then get it registered. DOJ will probably want the type of engraving to be professional, but if they already have you in the system as volreg they can't mandate that it be changed. That is if they accept a volreg serial! We should know soon if #1 works or not.
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Not allowing registration (and therefore requiring disposal) might be taking, but isn't ex post facto.
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Deleted, posted this in the wrong thread. Dangit, how do you delete a post in tapatalk
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General population: 3,817 Police officers: 108 Legal CCW: 18 |
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Everyone's saying "Don't check the less than 30" box". What law would be broken? PC 30515 wasn't effective until 1/1/17
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§12276.1 was amended to §30515 so that language was not new in 2017.
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Right, so if it was over 30" before the new definition, regardless of the new definition, don't check the box. If it was under 30" even before, then definitely don't check the box. Any way you look at it, don't check the box.
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No one can be realistically expected to understand the nuances of the change in a few words in a sentence in the regulations about what the definition of OAL means relative to past definitions. It's a joke, and if there ever was a problem then that case would blow up the entire AWCA based on the sad fact that there is nothing to charge someone with in the PC. It would be alleged manufacturing of an AW from an AW, which would be laughable at best. The further the antis go in terms of making a mockery of law and regulation the better it is for us, so I actually expect sooner or later we will see this case.
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Not talking about those configurations, specifically, not less than 30" before, but less than 30" now.
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Put the FFL's name and the date the DROS was started. If you inherited then put the persons name and estimate the date. They have shown that, at least electronically, that if you get the date wrong post 2014 that they will say it's wrong and then you call in and they will give you the right date. Stupid as can be, but this is normal.
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Got the following email from cal doj:
"The California Department of Justice has received your electronic AB 1135/SB 880 Assault Weapon Registration; however, it cannot be processed for the following reason(s): •Thank you for submitting your application. Based on the photos you provided, the model of your firearm is M4 CARBINE. Please correct your application to reflect M4 CARBINE as your model number." I had put 6940 for model number. Cal DOJ changed status to "incomplete" and I made the correction. |
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I checked the DROS form. It states LE6940LE for model (which is what I had entered to register). Their rejection message is based on the close up photo of the left side, which they require you to upload with the registration application.
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I'd call and ask to speak to someone since the DROS and their interpretation of the photo is different. Better than risking some cop's interpretation of it in the future.
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