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I spent yesterday shooting with about 30 other shooters at the X3 match in Piru. Other than optics I saw a few cheese grators (quad rails) otherwise the guns were all business. I guess the difference is some people shoot and use their stuff and others just polish the chrome.
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IMO if it is your firearm, only used by you, with no intention on ever selling it or getting back what you have in it, go ahead and modify to make it work for you! Bubba-away!!!
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I've got mine set up based on the one I used in the Marine Corps. Triangle handguards, 20 in. barrel, iron sights, etc. Seems to work for me. This whole Ar thing has caused a niche in the market for fans of the mouse gun. It's a good thing. It keeps the economy rolling and everyone can dress up their rifle anyway they want. God Bless America !
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Correct me if I am wrong, but NV scoping is illegal in CA at this time, correct? So, having IR on the rail, really has no use. (or is it NV goggles are the only thing illegal?)
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Their money, not yours. They can do whatever they wish to it since it's their property. This is a fine line. We cannot be hypocrites when many in PRK are trying to take away our passion and our rights.
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I think NV on a gun only applied to 1st gen NV or something weird like that. Don't quote me on it.
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NV scopes are illegal in CA but goggles and mono's are legal IIRC
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I didn't Bubba mine but I did get a quad rail free float handguard. It allows more airflow than the H.G. that was on my upper. I also put the Magpul XTM covers so I don't get burned.....they look cool too.
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I thought scopes are legal as long as they are not equipped with an iluminator.
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oposite thinking
I have the exact opposite thinking as most here.
When I hear the term, "Bubba AR15", I think of a 20"-24" flattop with a folding FSB, Tube FF, 10X50 scope, and a bi-pod. That's Bubba's hunting rifle. In my thinking, "bubba" is a backwoods hunter who likes AR15s, and wants to use it that way. Which is fine. It has a sub MOA potential, semi-auto, and can be quite purdy. The fact is, it is not a hunting rifle. Its was designed for the taking of human life in battle. If you asked Eugene Stoner to make you a hunting rifle, he would not have given you the AR15 platform. Hell, he didn't even want to give us the AR15, but was forced too. Now given that is my line of thought on the matter. An AR15 is only as good and as useful as you need it to be. YOUR AR15, needs to be configured as YOU need it. This is what the AR15 is. IMHO and What I need are as follows: 20", Flat top, bi-pod, folding sights, 9X40 mil-dot, adjustable stock. This is for daytime long range engagement of threats when I have back up. This only needs a railed gas block and a bi-pod rail or attachment point. 16", Flat top, A2 standing rear sight, Standard FSB, CQB type optic, Flashlight, maybe a VFG, single and two point attachment places, battery storage, Bolt storage, 4 position stock. This is for close combat to medium range engagement of threats in daytime and nighttime. Needs a rail on the bottom, a rail on both sides: Right side for flashlight, left side for two point sling attachment, bottom is for VFG if needed. Flip sights are great, but I choose not to have to flip up a sight, I want it there when I need it. The flashlight is needed because I don't want to shoot what I can't ID. The stock is needed to adjust for what I am wearing. 16" A2, A2 stock. KISS. Daytime or nighttime engagement of threats close to medium range when I will shoot at anything that moves and kill it! The basic AR15 is everything needed for this task. So is there is a need for the quad rails in my mind and when I see someone with everything and the kitchen sink hanging on their AR15, They must need it for something. I just wonder how long they can hold it up for |
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I'll think I'll start a new thread. This needs to be worked out.
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NV is not illegal in CA, except when hunting, I believe.
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Thermal IR is legal, as is a passive collector. You can mount an IR flashlight on your head if you want, just don't mount it on the weapon.
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I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.
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You say that like there's something wrong with being like a little girl playing dress up.
For my little girl, I have a Barbie AR-15. I'll not waste $ on BUIS, so it's just the EOTech 1x sight with the 1 MOA dot. Otherwise, it's featureless. It's done in pink with white flowers and I want her to have the same fun as a kid with a gun like I had. We have tea after shooting. I rather like my hat with the flower, think I'll wear it to work...
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I bubba AKs too.....
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Sad but true!!
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Forward grips actually do help me shoot better than just holding the magwell--and except for 10/30's which I see as a bastardization and refuse to humiliate myself in making--in this state I'm not having much to grip there. Aimpoint/EOtech/whatever is a functional part of the system. They WORK. No squinting down and tunnel visioning on irons or traditional scopes like a 3-9x40. If I want to narrow my world into the tiny fraction of an inch and absolutely nothing else I'm not picking up a poodle shooter, sorry, just like if I want to hit a golf ball it isn't going to be with a tennis racket.
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I thought it was to take a 6.5 lb rifle and make it 9+ pounder.
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I think the AR has 2 great appeals:
1) Every Tom, Dick, and Gray Wolf can swap out any of the parts, receivers, barrels etc. and trick it out any way he or she wants. 2) You can put a lot of lead down the barrel in a short period of time. BTW I do not want an AR like I had in the military. I had the first generation M-16 and that thing hated me and all lefties. What's wrong with looking good? Don't aesthetics matter? |
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It’s the American way bigger is better but you can tell the noobs at the range from the guys who use there rifles for competition and hunting you see those guys (the noobs) coming a mile away with there rifles that only come out of the safe maybe three times a year to impress there friends I just look and laugh thinking… There’s the American dream in all its Glory
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OP, think of it this way. It's AR owners way of stimulating the economy.
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i have rails, forward grip and flashlight. and i do take my kit to the range sometimes. i do not get to train like i did in Iraq at home. my unit is stupid like that so when i go to the range and i take my AR i train up a bit to keep the skill. it is a perishable skill. but yep there some guys that go pretty far.
but to each his own on this.
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Well, I pretty much use everything on my ar except for the phantom flash hider. God knows why I bought it. I just added some things on mine for ergonomics (like a cheek riser, forward pistol w/ rails, optics and back up sights).
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Just curious.. The above post by CA DOJ states that it has to both project an infrared light source AND be an electronic telescope in order to be illegal. If it is just a NV scope with no IR illuminator then it should be legal correct?
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I'm Happy with what I have, 16"Heavy Carbine, flat top, 6 Postion butt, with a bipod, ans since I can't see anymore I use a short range tac scope, and also have a sweet 22 3x12x40 rifle scope, nether of which is ever mounted at the same time . really the only thing I use thets just for looks, is a 10-20 rd mag, just cuss in my opinion, those 10 rds mags look stupid to me, and because i like the 20 rd look, I just bought 3 10-30 mags, just for looks, other then that my ar is all about putting lead down range, so I could care less what any one thinks of it, as long as I continue to have tight groups from 25 yards to 500 yards I'm happy. so you guys keep tricking out your stuff cuss I like those cool pictures.
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I blame airsoft guns. You can buy one of them and it comes with all sorts of weird things. Adding stuff to your rifle IS cool........to a certain degree. Adding stuff=cool, too much stuff=tool.
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some of the bells and whistles are necessary. i'm building a lightweight carbine for the woman and she's needs the 6pos stock for adjustment. she's not keen on the whole iron sights-thing (even though she can shoot well with irons), so eotech will most likely be the way to go for her. beyond that, she likes the thought of the forward grip, but isn't sold on it.
my spr has the quad rails, but i bought my upper off someone with those already installed. i only use it for the bipod. but i'd much prefer those smooth handguards with the tiny rail on the bottom for the bipod. |
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I dont really care if the rifle is all tacticool....its thier money.....as long as they`re using all quality equipment on thier rifles...no chinese knockoff crap. also, If there spending all that money for all that gear, I would hope they donate a few bucks to the NRA and to the calguns foundation to help fight to get our rights like the free states back.
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I use free float rails because the front sight is ugly and outdated. Plus the gas block is ugly too.
I use a vertical foregrip because it is a more natural way to hold it and allows better control of the rifle. I use a retractable stock because I like having different options for the LOP. I have only used a full stock AR once for about a mags worth of shooting so I don't have much to compare it to. I use an optic because I like it and it is easier to shoot with it. Do you want to know why I like flash hiders, bayonet lugs, and pistol grips to or have you decided against supporting the next AWB? |
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I STARTED with a plain jane AR, but I wanted to add a bipod and didn't want to mess up the sling swivel attachment point to do it. So I got a quad rail, then I got a scope. I am planning a build where I will have a light or a green laser of some sort with an eotech. If some guy had all of that on one AR I might question why, but I don't look at the guys with the plain ones and ask why. If you can outshoot the guys with all the doodads then more power to you.
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