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Old 07-26-2015, 6:10 PM
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Default I never understood the 1911....

But I've since determined I need one.

I've pretty much narrowed it down to a Springfield Loaded, possibly the MC Operator.

The Kimber TLE RL II looks tempting as well but I keep hearing negative reviews of Kimber reliability and subsequent customer service.

I'd love to hear opinions from my fellow Calgunners?!?!
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Old 07-26-2015, 6:13 PM
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What caliber... .45 ACP?
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Old 07-26-2015, 6:14 PM
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Loaded, operator, or kimber TLE..
I would go with the operator.
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Old 07-26-2015, 6:19 PM
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If the Kimber you're looking at is tempting and makes you happy buy it, the internet has a habit of perpetuating things way beyond what is actual.

Every gun manufacturer has had at one point or another in it's existence an issue or bad batch of something or another. They're man made mechanical parts, NONE are perfect (expect the uber awesome BHP but that's another lecture)

Plenty of people who don't frequent internet forums are blissfully unaware that their guns suck.

Either one you mentioned will be fine choices, go with what feels best in your hand and gives you the biggest boner.
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Old 07-26-2015, 6:20 PM
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Mc operator!
I have one. Worth every dollar
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Springfield loadeds have been pretty darn sweet
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Plenty of people who don't frequent internet forums are blissfully unaware that their guns suck.
now that's the truth.
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kimbers are just fine. As well as Springfields. But it's hard to beat Springfield's customer service!
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You won't need any customer service with a Ruger SR1911.

Check out Hickok45s review

Patterned after the Series 70. Well worth the low price.
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But I've since determined I need one.

I've pretty much narrowed it down to a Springfield Loaded, possibly the MC Operator.

The Kimber TLE RL II looks tempting as well but I keep hearing negative reviews of Kimber reliability and subsequent customer service.

I'd love to hear opinions from my fellow Calgunners?!?!
Well you got the fever. Its like going through puberty and you're at the beach looking at all the goodies wanting one but they all look so good and you keep tossing them around in your mind in different positions which one you want but they all look so good and you keep tossing them around in your mind which one you want and at night you can't sleep and you're just going to bust if you don't get your hand on those sweet grips and push that shinny mag in hard and rub that slide back and hear that sweet music that's she's ready for you.Ya! You got the fever..

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Old 07-26-2015, 6:47 PM
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There's a couple used TLE/RL's on gbroker right now under $750.
I think about buying, but honestly I'll stick to $500 short extractor Sigs.
I can always borrow a 1911 if I want to vary my range time.
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Old 07-26-2015, 6:51 PM
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Springfield is a great gun and they might have great customer service but all that means is that you have had to contact them. I have both but I also have many different Kimbers. I couldn't be happier with them. And I have no idea what their customer service is like.
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Yes, hard to beat the Ruger 1911 price.
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You won't need any customer service with a Ruger SR1911.

Check out Hickok45s review

Patterned after the Series 70. Well worth the low price.
Totally agree with you. Took my Ruger 1911Commander size with the black finish to the range last week.Nice trigger,and ate what ever I put in it. Like my
loaded as well. But there is something about the Commander that gave me
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Well you got the fever. Its like going through puberty and you're at the beach looking at all the goodies wanting one but they all look so good and you keep tossing them around in your mind in different positions which one you want but they all look so good and you keep tossing them around in your mind which one you want and at night you can't sleep and you're just going to bust if you don't get your hand on those sweet grips and push that shinny mag in hard and rub that slide back and hear that sweet music that's she's ready for you.Ya! You got the fever..
bro- guns is guns, sex is sex... it's weird and creepy that you confuse them.

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Old 07-26-2015, 6:59 PM
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I've got both the Loaded and the TLE RL II with at least 8,000 rnds through the Loaded and about 2,000 through the Kimber. I've never had issue with either (other than a couple dud rounds). I can't comment on customer service for either because I haven't had to use them. A TRP Operator is next on my 1911 wish list though.
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Old 07-26-2015, 7:00 PM
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i've put 2000+ rounds through my used TLE/RL II with maybe one failure to feed inthe entire 3 years I've had it. It has eaten and spit out everything that i have thrown through it. That includes factory, factory reloads and my own reloads, both FMJ and HP.

That said I'm sure your other two choices will be just fine also. I don't think you'kk go wrong with any of those you listed.

I also have a Sig Nightmare Carry and a Dan Wesson Guardian. Kimber is in the bedside 'safe'.
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Old 07-26-2015, 7:17 PM
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I've read tons of Kimber hate on here, but mine has never had a single issue. That being said, I'm sure you'll like any of your options.
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Old 07-26-2015, 7:19 PM
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Welcome to the light. The 1911 is the pistol equivalent of once black, never back. Its a fantastic pistol. John Browning got the grip angle and ergos just about perfect.

My first 1911 was a Springfield mil spec. Nearly 30 years later, it still has a fantastically tight lock up and is very accurate. I'm bailing a TRP Operator out of jail tomorrow. For the money, its hard to beat a Springfield.

I've never owed a Kimber. They were the cats ***** when they first came out, but they had some growing pains. But, like someone said above, that can be said of most manufacturers.

Find a range that has both to loan, and try them both out. Get the that pushes your buttons.
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Old 07-26-2015, 7:24 PM
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OP, the honest answer is you'll probably end up getting more than one anyways so don't sweat it too much.

Personally, I would go with Springfield Armory over Kimber. Either will serve you well. The SA might be easier to sell down the line because of their awesome customer service. Something to keep in mind.
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Get the MC Operator, you'll be glad you did.

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Both SA and Kimber are great, although I don't know own a SA 1911, but I've sent many rounds down range with a Loaded model. However, I do own a Kimber Custom II and the thing is very well built, top quality, American made and performs at a very high level, accuracy and reliably wise. I don't know where a lot of the hate for Kimber comes from, but I've learned that personal experiences trumps Internet.

Despite my personal choice was Kimber, I'd vote for SA because you get more that comes with the pistol than the Kimber: Holster, Magazine holsters, TWO magazines, etc... Much more value for the buck. I chose Kimber because of my own research and handling of all the different manufacturers of 1911's I can get my hands on.

Another thing, OP. You may want to keep in mind that most people who are recommending a manufacturer to go with has some bias towards any manufacture that they chose against to feel better about their purchases. I suggest do as much research as you can from the choices you've listed to make a more educated decision!

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What caliber... .45 ACP?
The other day an old fellow told me:
"Son, there's two calibres in this world, .45ACP, and all that other cr*p."
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Get the MC Operator, you'll be glad you did.

Great looking operator. Love my full rail
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I love my Springfield Loaded Target, still plan on picking up an MC Operator. I've shot a few Kimbers, not sure if the TLE was one or not to be honest but they were all terrible. Kinda ruined my opinion of them. I think most will agree though you can't go wrong with Springfield 1911s.
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Old 07-26-2015, 7:38 PM
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First 1911 was a Kimber Custom II, it was a good pistol but I ended selling it. Next was a Les Baer TRS, break in period was lame. Sold the Baer and now I've ended up with 2 Springfield loaded models and am stoked. Both the SA's have been phenomenal shooters.

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I was going to get an MC Operator but decided on the TLE RL due to it being available at Cabela's and me having points (discounting the firearm).

Haven't had a single complaint with it. In fact, it's my favorite pistol to shoot.
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It doesn't matter which one you'll get. Eventually you'll end up buying another one, then another, and another and...
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I have a Loaded and a Custom II, never had major issues with either one as long as I stuck to good magazines. I kind of wish I went with the TLE instead of the custom, the front cock serrations and night sights are worth the extra cost imo.
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My first 1911 bought a few months ago was a Colt XSE Government Model in blue.

It has features that are similar to Springfield and Kimber. However, when I read that Colt uses only 3 MIM parts (mag catch, sear, disconnect) in their 1911 pistols; that sealed the deal for me. Nothing wrong with MIM as long as it doesn't break. I like how Colt kept mostly original spec on materials.

Fit and finish is top notch. No malfunctions in 250 rounds other that the slide not locking back once on a Colt factory 8 round mag.
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Don't overlook sig 1911s, lots of features packed in at their price point. I love my sig, it's on my hip right now.
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Just get a Wilson or Brown and be done with it.
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Ya OP just get what feels and looks better to you. Since you are looking at quality arms already you are ahead of the game. I personally do not like Kimber just too may issues. Love SA and I also recommend Dan Wesson. Heard good things about Sig for the price point too.
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Thanks for the replies! I didn't expect such a quick/strong response. Not even one person told me to search prior posts which tells me cal gunners are passionate about the 1911. Looking forward to picking one up!
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TLE/RL 2 was my second pistol I ever owned after xd9. I think if the gun store guy I talked to had never suggested that kimber, I would have never began my love affair with the 1911. I'm happy he did to say the least. Anyways, still have the TLE and it has always ran like a clock, the only failures were mag related. So highly recommend getting some Wilson Combat mags to support your new pistol. Either way you go, kim or springer, you'll be happy because it's a 1911.
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While I think Kimbers are some of the best looking 1911's on the market at their price point my nod is going to be towards the SA Operator. That being said, I have been super happy with my Sig and would purchase another before either of the other two mentioned. Plenty of features, shoots great, with a superb fit and finish (much better than my Colt). Being a Sig owner I will also try to lasso you into our camp to offset the SA following here on Calguns.

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Dang, you guys are making me wish I never sold my SA Loaded. :\
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I don't think you can really go wrong with either choice. My first 1911 was a Kimber and has ran great for 1k rounds. Im also bailing out an MC Operator today.
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