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Old 09-04-2013, 7:34 AM
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Fava beans -- food for you, nitrogen for the soil.
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"Best bang for the buck, time, and space is potatoes. I'm always surprised more people don't grow them." All true, especially if you can find some specialty seed potatoes. There's little point in growing Russets where they're so cheap in the store.
And you can "Can" them for long term as well. Nothing better then canned meat and potatoes. Wonder if you could can them together?
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Fava beans -- food for you, nitrogen for the soil.
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I just started growing some tomatoes and peppers this summer. Anyone know some good beginner plants I can do in fall/winter?
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I live in the suburbs of LA and grow broccoli, tomatoes, asparagus, peppers, lettuce, spinach, beans, various herbs, raspberries, figs, avocados, peaches, oranges, lemons.

I also have 6 chickens for eggs.

I plan to plant more types of veggies this next year as well. My goal is to buy as little at the grocery store as possible.
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Regular ole doug fir. It's cheap will last at least 3 or 4 seasons. Redwood now a days is crap and cedar is expensive. Pressure treated wood is bad for you.

The time to experiment with gardening is now. When the SHTF you don't wanna be trying it out.

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I grow enough tomatoes, squash, peppers, and a few
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I grow enough tomatoes, squash, peppers, and a few other items every year to make it worth my while. Plus I have learned many many things that would help me be successful if I needed to do this to live by.
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I just started my garden, ill post some pictures today. Does anyone have any links or for garden noobs like myself?
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I've got a hydro setup I borrowed/built from a guy that goes by MHPGardener on youtube. I've got the tomatoes going in the "dutch bucket" setup plus lettuce, kale, spinach, and pak choy in a his stand alone setup. The nutrients are mixed exactly like he has in his vid and if you have any questions, Bobby (MHP), is usually really quick to answer. You can grow 12 leafy plants in a 32" x 48" area. He also has an seedling starter setup that works really well. I also have a aquaponics setup with a 275 gal IBC. That was by far much more expensive. I think I have about 20 tilapia left in that. My wife keeps going fishing and loves tilapia. Pics to follow if anyone wants them once I figure out how to post them.

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In years past we've only used a 14x16' space but have added a separate 20x40' space for this coming year. The downside of where I'm at is the growing season: we can't really plant outdoors (as opposed to a greenhouse) before mid-April, and the first frost will occur some time in October, so it's a case of planting varieties that can fully mature within that window. Some varieties of peppers simply can't mature before the first freeze. This is the garden at 10 weeks after planting this past year:

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I've been looking into these for a sunny spot in the backyard. Most of my backyard is shaded except for an area near our patio. Thought these would be fairly cool.

Not mine but mine will look similar:


http://www.amazon.com/Behlen-Country...s=horse+trough
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Be careful not to overwater since adequate drainage might become an issue using a horse trough.
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I've been looking into these for a sunny spot in the backyard. Most of my backyard is shaded except for an area near our patio. Thought these would be fairly cool.

Not mine but mine will look similar:


http://www.amazon.com/Behlen-Country...s=horse+trough
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Be careful not to overwater since adequate drainage might become an issue using a horse trough.
Yeah I was thinking of running pvc watering and drainage pipes installed running together to take care of excess water.

Like this:

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My wife and I have a dozen 4x8 garden boxes in the back yard, plus two chicken coops. We're "inside the loop" in the city of Dallas, so technically urban though the lot sizes here are more of what you might call suburban. Here's an aerial photo of the garden area, taken via quadcopter / GoPro last fall:



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Based on advice from people here on the forums and my own plan for fencing around it this is our first garden:

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Planted today! I have a feeling it's going to be a hot one this summer. Looking forward to growing some decent tomatoes on the coast.
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looks great. The netting will help with birds. What's planted?
Sorry about the long reply time, was busy most of the weekend

The gf planted:
Broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, beats, cabbage and romaine lettuce

There is also off the side, parsely and peppers.

I used wire netting around the ends and the full length of the top as well as the back. The front has fruit tree netting that is almost invisible in the picture and anchored to the pvc pipe at the bottom. It allows us to just lift the netting on the front very easy to get inside. We have found bird feathers in the netting several times now, so it seems to be working
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Are birds eating your garden a huge issue in SoCal?

I have an overhanging Pine tree from a neighbor's yard, great shade for the house in the afternoon, and I have all the pine straw I could ever ask for for ground cover.
I used pine-straw as ground cover on my cacti and fruit trees, and it seems to be working well, REALLY well, but would heirloom veggies be adversely effected by doing the same in a raised bed?
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Are birds eating your garden a huge issue in SoCal?

I have an overhanging Pine tree from a neighbor's yard, great shade for the house in the afternoon, and I have all the pine straw I could ever ask for for ground cover.
I used pine-straw as ground cover on my cacti and fruit trees, and it seems to be working well, REALLY well, but would heirloom veggies be adversely effected by doing the same in a raised bed?
I seemed to have a few problems the first time I decided to grow a garden... one was birds/pidgeons eating everything, the second one was stray cats digging up and pooping everywhere they could find something that looked like dirt.

We have managed to clear up a lot of the cat problems, but the birds are impossible.
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My biggest problem is the bugs. They keep eating my tomatoes and other plant leaves. Not that I am against pesticides I am trying to go completely organic as my family typically tends to eat things right from the garden (little ones).
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Im about to make my first attempt at a garden. Do I need to build a box or can I just plant straight into the ground? I figure since I live in the Central Valley so it would be ok. Plus my yard already has a drip system so it would be easier.
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Here's last year's dirt garden...




Here's a very early season shot of our tomato tree (grown hydroponically in coco coir)


Here's one of the early bunches on the tomato tree..


Here's the front of the hydro trays, the tomato tree is in the back tray. At the end of the season, the tree had a 9' x 5' dense canopy.


and a few of our fertilizer sources...
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You and i have the same fertilizer sources...

Nothing like getting your fertilizer straight from the tap!
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My urban garden does pretty well. Zucchini, peppers, leafy greens, beans, herbs, etc, etc. oh, and tomatoes. I got almost 300lbs of tomatoes last year. What we don't eat dress and give to the neighbors, we dry, freeze whole (cherries) or can into pasta sauce.
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Great pics and ideas...I'm renovating my back 1/4 acre which will include a garden. Chicken coop being renovated for 4 chickens to start, getting Pigmy Miniature Goats, Plan on lots of 4X8 Planter Boxes but the Horse troughs are a great idea...Large pots on Back Patio, Dwarf Citrus, Avocado, Apple trees there. Blood Orange, Loquats and Mexican Limes had fruit the first year last year.
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If any of you guys have set up an aquaponics or hydroponics system would you care to share some pics?
CL San Diego has a free hot tub used for Tillapia and whatnot.. not what I'd do but WTH.

Saw that painted soda bottle hanging on the fence thing before - total eyesore. Best use of that is vertical drainage, and controlling watering would be a pain, very plant specific.
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What would you guys think about demo concrete pieces to build a planter box as usually it can be found for free on CL. Something like this made into rectangle:http://handmadepress.wordpress.com/2...ing-wall/wall/
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What would you guys think about demo concrete pieces to build a planter box as usually it can be found for free on CL. Something like this made into rectangle:http://handmadepress.wordpress.com/2...ing-wall/wall/
I actually bought the cheap cinder blocks at Lowe's ($0.87/ea) for mine, but can't get it all level, until I get a tiller for the wall. Then I can start...
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even at .87 cents each thats still $15-20 for one. I am looking for no cost options. People will even deliver the concrete to my door.
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Are birds eating your garden a huge issue in SoCal?

I have an overhanging Pine tree from a neighbor's yard, great shade for the house in the afternoon, and I have all the pine straw I could ever ask for for ground cover.
I used pine-straw as ground cover on my cacti and fruit trees, and it seems to be working well, REALLY well, but would heirloom veggies be adversely effected by doing the same in a raised bed?
The birds and scavengers go at my fruit like crazy. But my father's huge veggie garden goes almost untouched.

I used cinderblock and costco plastic raised beds. You can also just pile up the dirt.

Drip irrigation is far superior to traditional sprinkers.
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It's not really that much about being economical, or self-sufficient, at least for me.

I do urban farming to get more familiar with the process.

When you get into farming, you make mistakes.
So if SHTF someday, I want to already have the skills to
grow food, without having to worry about making mistakes
when it matters a lot more.

But there is benefit in having really good vegetables
that you grew yourself. They simply taste much better
than the ones you buy in the store. Especially tomatoes!

And yes, if I was in a more rural situation, I might want to
do a larger, more sustainable farm, to become more self-sufficient.
But since I am in the city, I plan on bugging out. I wouldn't want my
supply of food to become a magnet for hungry mobs.

I agree that potatoes are a good crop to practice growing.
You want to be familiar with growing crops that are high
in calories, carbs, vitamins, etc. Stuff you can actually
live off of. Corn, potatoes, beans, etc.
Same here: time to learn and expand growing skills and save seeds.
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We just added some lawn mowers to our setup. They also produce milk and wool. We're debating taking them for "walks" and mowing down the repo house yards around the neighborhood.

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Reading that Habanaros need full sun, I damn near cooked a plant by leaving it in full sun over the summer... bad move.

She now gets morning sun and shade the rest of the day and with three new peppers in the last month, I'm just a bit amazed. She was about to meet the yard wast bin.

Habanaros have an awesome flavor.
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My current gripe. I have done a lot of growing over the years but here is my latest complaint. Over the summer I was growing corn, beans, chilies, squash, and tomatoes and my water bill was $100-150 more each month because of it. It is hard for me to justify that when in the summer I can get 6 ears of corn for a dollar. I know it shouldn't be about the money as the food I grow is 100% organic etc but it's hard when it's costing me so much more than buying. Help motivate me to keep growing.
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Over the summer I was growing corn, beans, chilies, squash, and tomatoes and my water bill was $100-150 more each month because of it. Help motivate me to keep growing.
Couple questions to ponder:
1) How are you watering? Sprinklers? Hand watering? Drip irrigation?
2) What would be the cost of a store-bought ear of corn after a disaster/civil unrest and the power had been off for three days or a week?

The way you water can affect how much is used. Drip irrigation done right really sips the water.

One motivation for gardening at home is to be self sufficient to a degree when SHTF and the trucks stop bringing food to the local Safeway.

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Not quite urban but here is what I currently have


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