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Old 02-20-2014, 11:13 AM
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Very Interesting...
If you don't read all, at least go to the bottom and see info on Switzerland

Please go all the way down the list for the "bottom line". . .
This is FASCINATING !!
WORLD MURDER STATISTICS
From the World Health Organization
The latest Murder Statistics for the world:
Murders per 100,000 citizens per year.
Honduras 91.6 (WOW!!)
El Salvador 69.2
Cote d'lvoire 56.9
Jamaica 52.2
Venezuela 45.1
Belize 41.4
US Virgin Islands 39.2
Guatemala 38.5
Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2
Zambia 38.0
Uganda 36.3
Malawi 36.0
Lesotho 35.2
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
Colombia 33.4
South Africa 31.8
Congo 30.8
Central African Republic 29.3
Bahamas 27.4
Puerto Rico 26.2
Saint Lucia 25.2
Dominican Republic 25.0
Tanzania 24.5
Sudan 24.2
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9
Ethiopia 22.5
Guinea 22.5
Dominica 22.1
Burundi 21.7
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7
Panama 21.6
Brazil 21.0
Equatorial Guinea 20.7
Guinea-Bissau 20.2
Kenya 20.1
Kyrgyzstan 20.1
Cameroon 19.7
Montserrat 19.7
Greenland 19.2
Angola 19.0
Guyana 18.6
Burkina Faso 18.0
Eritrea 17.8
Namibia 17.2
Rwanda 17.1
Mexico 16.9
Chad 15.8
Ghana 15.7
Ecuador 15.2
North Korea 15.2
Benin 15.1
Sierra Leone 14.9
Mauritania 14.7
Botswana 14.5
Zimbabwe 14.3
Gabon 13.8
Nicaragua 13.6
French Guiana 13.3
Papua New Guinea 13.0
Swaziland 12.9
Bermuda 12.3
Comoros 12.2
Nigeria 12.2
Cape Verde 11.6
Grenada 11.5
Paraguay 11.5
Barbados 11.3
Togo 10.9
Gambia 10.8
Peru 10.8
Myanmar 10.2
Russia 10.2
Liberia 10.1
Costa Rica 10.0
Nauru 9.8
Bolivia 8.9
Mozambique 8.8
Kazakhstan 8.8
Senegal 8.7
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7
Mongolia 8.7
British Virgin Islands 8.6
Cayman Islands 8.4
Seychelles 8.3
Madagascar 8.1
Indonesia 8.1
Mali 8.0
Pakistan 7.8
Moldova 7.5
Kiribati 7.3
Guadeloupe 7.0
Haiti 6.9
Timor-Leste 6.9
Anguilla 6.8
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8
Lithuania 6.6
Uruguay 5.9
Philippines 5.4
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Cuba 5.0
Belarus 4.9
Thailand 4.8
Suriname 4.6
Laos 4.6
Georgia 4.3
Martinique 4.2
And ............................................

The United States 4.2 !!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL (109) of the countries above America have 100% gun bans.
It might be of interest to note that SWITZERLAND is not shown on this list because it has NO MURDER OCCURRENCE!

However, SWITZERLAND'S law requires that EVERYONE:
1. Own a gun.
2. Maintain Marksman qualifications .... regularly .
Did you learn anything from this??
I think the message is - loud and clear - that gun bans and restrictions
DO NOT work!
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:29 AM
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This is Excellent ........
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There is a problem with using Switzerland as an example though. Their complete lack of diversity in demographics. Since Switzerland is so small, their community is very small too. They are all "Swiss". Look at the US now. We have African American, Asian, Irish, Mexican, etc etc. There is such diversity in demographics, values and ideaology on everything that violence will occur. I do understand what you're saying about the Swiss though. It's still a bit of an apples to oranges comparison.
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We have African American, Asian, Irish, Mexican, etc etc. There is such diversity in demographics, values and ideaology on
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I know for a fact Guns are not banned in South Africa. You need to obtain a license to own a gun and it needs to be renewed every 5 years. So gun laws are a lot more strict and it's similar to the way we regulate cars. Then just randomly I looked up Greenland and they to allow gun ownership with licensing. I found a thread on a forum on Gun Broker titled I Love Gun Laws Here In Greenland where someone from Greenland was talking about how great it is because you can open carry and no one will call the police. So anyways you may want to run through that list to make sure it's accurate.

You brought up Switzerland. The law does not require everyone own a firearm, this is a myth. Able bodied men from age 19 are required to go through military training and are issued their weapon and equipment which can be kept at their home or at military armory. Since they are such a small country this is how they run their defense forces. As far as civilians owning firearms a license is required for handguns and the license is only valid for several months and only good for purchasing one firearm. Certain rifles for hunting do not require a license. Firearms are also registered with the government.

Anyways just comparing countries murder rates and gun laws is not a good way to determine the effectiveness of gun laws. I could also point to Japan who has en extremely low murder rate and they have a gun ban. Gun murders are also non existent in Japan. Also you could compare the Americas murder rate to the richest industrialized nations like in Europe; we have a much higher murder rate and gun death rate than they do and they have much stricter gun laws than we do.

But I think the lesson here still remains that gun bans aren't going to solve all our problems. All countries are different with different problems. Some countries have very low standards of living extremely high poverty rates which leads to crime. I noticed Sudan was on the list. Well they're in the middle of a civil war, they have very weak government, high poverty rates, poor economy and so on.

Just to be clear here I am not advocating strict gun laws and gun bans. I do believe common sense gun laws like background checks have their place in a civilized society but they need to be comprehensive a d not put in place by knee jerk reactions.
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This list gets posted all the time and there are too many inaccuracies and failures of context to make it useful in any way.
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There is a problem with using Switzerland as an example though. Their complete lack of diversity in demographics. Since Switzerland is so small, their community is very small too. They are all "Swiss". Look at the US now. We have African American, Asian, Irish, Mexican, etc etc. There is such diversity in demographics, values and ideaology on everything that violence will occur. I do understand what you're saying about the Swiss though. It's still a bit of an apples to oranges comparison.
Are you saying minorities can't control themselves? I think that's a tad racist
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In Guatemala barber shops have armed (12ga shotgun carrying) guards so is this list totally accurate? As far as my experience, Guatemala has a pretty robust right to bear arms (in practice) even if it isn't codified. I believe this stems from the politically motivated mass murders they suffered after gun confiscations of the past.
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