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Old 02-19-2014, 5:50 PM
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Just spent a few days in Arizona and I drooled over a Gen4 Glock 27 and a Ruger 22/45 Lite that I can't legally buy in California. Also, I found out that it takes 15 minutes or less to buy a handgun there. Then, ANYONE can CCW without a permit. Man, that makes me want to find a job there. Oh, I wanted to CCW, but I never did because it felt strange to do it.

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Yea, Arizona is pretty nice. My cousin lives up there with some cool NFA toys. Planning to visit him, hopefully soon. Forgot I can carry up there, reminds me that I should order a nice holster.
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Both my grown sons moved there. The freedoms are great! But the heat is unbearable and the entertainment pales in comparison to SoCal.
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Old 02-19-2014, 7:25 PM
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If just that makes you jealous your head will explode when you realize in most free states, we can have suppressors, sbr's, sbs's, etc. I can also meet someone in the Walmart parking lot and buy a firearm, cash, with no paperwork.
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Just spent a few days in Arizona and I drooled over a Gen4 Glock 27 and a Ruger 22/45 Lite that I can't legally buy in California.
You can certainly buy those guns and many more legally in CA.
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Just spent a few days in Arizona and I drooled over a Gen4 Glock 27 and a Ruger 22/45 Lite that I can't legally buy in California.

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You can certainly buy those guns and many more legally in CA.
Neither one has ever been on the roster in California.

I know that I can probably find a Gen4 27 and go through the single-shot exemption process and pay an additional $100. But, I've never heard of being able to do the same for the 22/45 lite.
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:04 PM
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Both my grown sons moved there. The freedoms are great! But the heat is unbearable and the entertainment pales in comparison to SoCal.
I don't know Arizona very well. But, I remember somebody telling me that some towns in the higher elevations rarely go past 90 degrees.
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I know that I can probably find a Gen4 27 and go through the single-shot exemption process and pay an additional $100. But, I've never heard of being able to do the same for the 22/45 lite.
There are tons of shops that no longer charge SSE fees. Ton's of gen4 Glocks being sold in Orange County for around $600 OTD.
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You can CCW without a permit? I'm pretty sure only Arizona residents can CCW. If you're from out of state you have to open carry.
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You can CCW without a permit? I'm pretty sure only Arizona residents can CCW. If you're from out of state you have to open carry.
Nope, anyone can carry. Except felons, etc...

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Old 02-20-2014, 12:54 AM
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Anyone 21 or older from any state can CCW without a permit in Arizona:

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Anyone 21 or older from any state can CCW without a permit in Arizona:

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And I am not aware of any crazy gang banging activities & crime like we have in Oakland, East palo- alto & La. Lucky well thinking state.
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Both my grown sons moved there. The freedoms are great! But the heat is unbearable and the entertainment pales in comparison to SoCal.
The weather isn't that much better in Bakersfield, just saying. If you think AZ is too hot look into northern AZ, it's unusual for the temperature to get above 100 degrees in Flagstaff or Prescott.
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Born n raised in OC I think Bakersfield is too hot. My kids live in the Tempe area which is on avg 10* hotter than Bakersfield, yikes. Prescott n Flagstaff are ideal but jobs are sparse.
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And I am not aware of any crazy gang banging activities & crime like we have in Oakland, East palo- alto & La. Lucky well thinking state.
You might want to do a search on gang activity in Arizona, you might be surprised. A lot of people forget that most of the drugs that cross the border happen in Arizona and Texas. You have gangs, the cartels as well as the mafia.
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You might want to do a search on gang activity in Arizona, you might be surprised. A lot of people forget that most of the drugs that cross the border happen in Arizona and Texas. You have gangs, the cartels as well as the mafia.

Great point !
I hope Calgunners of your stature will keep this in mind before visiting or relocating to such a dangerous, lawless, racist places like Arizona and Texas !
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Both my grown sons moved there. The freedoms are great! But the heat is unbearable and the entertainment pales in comparison to SoCal.
The heat isn't that bad because its dry heat most of the time. Also you can use swamp cooling except for July and August which cost's just a few cents per day. Lived in Yuma for two years its hotter there than Phoenix.
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I am surprised to see anyone excited over a Gen 4 Glock in a free state when there are SBR's and suppressors to get way more excited about.
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Just spent a few days in Arizona and I drooled over a Gen4 Glock 27 and a Ruger 22/45 Lite that I can't legally buy in California. Also, I found out that it takes 15 minutes or less to buy a handgun there. Then, ANYONE can CCW without a permit. Man, that makes me want to find a job there. Oh, I wanted to CCW, but I never did because it felt strange to do it.

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You can CCW without a permit? I'm pretty sure only Arizona residents can CCW. If you're from out of state you have to open carry.
Everywhere except federal / state buildings, places that SERVE alcohol to customers (Unless you have a CCW), and places where business owners choose to accept the security of their customers as their own responsibility (Aka posted signs forbidding firearms)
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Great point !
I hope Calgunners of your stature will keep this in mind before visiting or relocating to such a dangerous, lawless, racist places like Arizona and Texas !
Sorry jack, but I am not leaving California. You can have both of those states.
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What is to prevent you from setting up a post office box, and getting a driver's license in AZ and be a resident to buy firearms? Then just register them when you get back into cali.
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You might want to do a search on gang activity in Arizona, you might be surprised. A lot of people forget that most of the drugs that cross the border happen in Arizona and Texas. You have gangs, the cartels as well as the mafia.
I have friends here in Prescott who actually don't have a key for the front door of their house. They just leave it unlocked 24/7.

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What is to prevent you from setting up a post office box, and getting a driver's license in AZ and be a resident to buy firearms? Then just register them when you get back into cali.
Well, that would be a Federal offense. If you read the ATF FAQ about residency, they don't care about where your mailing address is, or where you own property, or where your driver's license is from, or any of the other shenanigans people try to pull. They care about where your body resides.
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If I could find work equivalent in pay, I'd be going.

But I would still be active in the California Civil Gun Rights movement.
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Sorry jack, but I am not leaving California. You can have both of those states.
Someone, somewhere is probably happy about that.
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It is why I am moving there- 2 months!! Cant wait. 15 acre ranch paid for compared to payments on a 900 sq foot house- cant go wrong.
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If I could find work equivalent in pay, I'd be going.

But I would still be active in the California Civil Gun Rights movement.
Most people that live in California use that same excuses, and yes, I said excuse. I'm not saying its not a valid point, but if you really want to move you'll find a way and it may mean paycuts. Wife and I both took paycuts to move but it was well worth it. I am now at 90% of what I made in California and net positive if you factor in cost of living.

You will most likely never move if you wait to find a job that pays the same.
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My job has kept me here but I'm retiring in July,I would love to move.My
wife won't here of it so I'm stuck.I would go to AZ in a heartbeat,I'd even
go back east to PA where I used to live outside Philadelphia! Got a CCW
There in a week,no hassle. It's a full auto state,my friend still sends me
video shooting his M16. Pete
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Most people that live in California use that same excuses, and yes, I said excuse. I'm not saying its not a valid point, but if you really want to move you'll find a way and it may mean paycuts. Wife and I both took paycuts to move but it was well worth it. I am now at 90% of what I made in California and net positive if you factor in cost of living.

You will most likely never move if you wait to find a job that pays the same.
That's awesome for you two. I'm divorced and pay a set amount in child support (which I'm happy to do). Any reduction in pay affects them as well as myself, and currently we all are just keeping our heads above water. It would be irresponsible of me to take a lower paying job. Call that what you will.

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I've been putting off my move there for a year and a half, this december all bets are off and i'll be there for sure. it's a great place and being able to ccw and oc is just such a great feeling.....
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