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Old 01-24-2014, 2:02 PM
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Question Loading 7.62X39 for SKS

Has anybody used these bullets and were they any good. Personally I like HPBT or V-Max.

I got some new PMC brass from a friend and would like to load up. But, here they are .312. The recipe book (Sierra) shows .310. It even says you can use .308. I never loaded the 7.62X39...kind of scratchin' my head on this one.

Recommendations will be really appreciated. Thanks!

http://www.xtremebullets.com/category-s/48049.htm
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Should be .310's for SKS/AK

.312 sounds like for a Mosin 7.62x54R.
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I've been experimenting with these bullets a lot.

They need to be loaded down in velocity; the plating comes off at over 2000fps. Also, they suck out of AK pattern rifles; the blunt nose causes jams. In SKS patterns I haven't had that problem.

Because they are soft lead simply plated with copper, not jacketed, their .312 dimension is fine. They shoot well given the proper powder load.

Here's a couple of threads I wrote about my experience with them and some others chime in with useful info about their experiences with loading these too:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=850685

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=874605 (for gallery load info)
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I've also tried 'em out for plinker rounds and had okay results with my AK, SKSs and x39 AR. Have not had the feeding issues that BruinGuy describes.
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Jarhead load up 10 round for now so you can check for function. SKS can be notorious for chewing up brass casings so I removed the operating rod and turn my SKS to a repeater. Plus I can catch the brass when I pull the bolt back slowly versus getting ejected like 8' away. Those plated are good for plinking and lower velocity application. Even though they are sized .312 you can still use them. The copper plating is soft enough and lead too to size up in the barrel upon firing. I've used the ones from Berrys in the past and they are also plated. Never had any issues.
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So far , so good on the info guys. How about some HPBT or V-Max? I'm looking more so for accuracy.
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So far , so good on the info guys. How about some HPBT or V-Max? I'm looking more so for accuracy.
My usual load for x39 is VMAX with 24.5grns of 1680 and a CCI #34 primer.
Also loaded up some ZMAX, but just for zombies.
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If you can find vmax for a good price they're nice, but they like most 123-125 gr .310 bullets for the AK & SKS are flat base. I've gotten good accuracy from Prvi sp and fmj. Hornady SST is probably the best but are pricey. Hpbt is going to cost you for 123gr...Barnes makes some but they're about .80 per bullet for .310 123gr.

150 gr bullets might be worth a look if accuracy is your goal but the variety available in .308 is much greater than .310, and .308 isn't so good in most SKS rifles. Worth a try, maybe your rifle will do well with them. .310s are out there but seem to start at about .50 each. .311 bullets are much more common, but I'd slug my barrel before trying them. 6mmintl loads up 150gr for his competition bolt gun, maybe he'll chime in.

I like Reloder 7 and H4198 for my loads; I'd certainly try Aa1680 if I could find some!

Unfortunately, the Xtreme bullets are really plinkers. They are fun and cheap but don't expect great groups past 100 yards. I would expect about the same from the similar Berry's bullet, if you find some.
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I like Reloder 7 and H4198 for my loads; I'd certainly try Aa1680 if I could find some!
I posted a thread this morning about a1680. Recob's has it in stock and I ordered some as well.
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Jarhead, I'm glad you started this thread. I have 762x39 dies, but I haven't started reloading that cartridge yet. This thread is developing some really good info that I plan to use
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Jarhead, I'm glad you started this thread. I have 762x39 dies, but I haven't started reloading that cartridge yet. This thread is developing some really good info that I plan to use
We got to all start somewhere.

The thing now is trying to find the bullets (.310-.311) and proper powder. I only have IMR4895 at this time and am unable to find any recipes that are compatible for 7.62x39. Oh well. I'll be looking for 1680 and or what the recipe books list for this round.
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I would load up the .308 150 grain copper plated bullets, they should be more accurate and carry out to longer distances better, plus youll save 1-2 grains of powder each shot.
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I usually load the speer or hornady 150 grain hunting bullets under 28 grains of AA2230 with bullets seated way out to touch the lands if possible in my SKS and or AR for 200 meter silhouette shooting at Chabot 1st Sunday of the month.

We single load only as you do in most competitions so it does not make since to seat mag length when you can shoot heavier bullets more accurately with same or lower pressures.
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On another note my 98 Mauser with .308 barrel is a different story where I can load .308 bullets primarily 135/155 Sierra matchkings and shoot accurately (.375 MOA) out to 600 yards.
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I would load up the .308 150 grain copper plated bullets, they should be more accurate and carry out to longer distances better, plus youll save 1-2 grains of powder each shot.
I have some Sierra .308, 150gr. HPBT MK. Would that be compatible?
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I use those same bullets and they jam upon feeding in my AK. I tried them in my SKS and they all fed fine without any issues. I've got about 400 left to load for my SKS although I don't shoot it very much at all. Does anyone know if these bullets will work in a 300 blackout load? I'm just getting into loading those up and want to use these for something other than my rarely used SKS.
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Jarhead,

Started at 18.0 gr settled on 21.5 IMR 4227. Out of Chinese SKS. No feeding or ejection issues . Work up, as all rifles are different. Hope this helps.
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Started at 18.0 gr settled on 21.5 IMR 4227. Out of Chinese SKS. No feeding or ejection issues . Work up, as all rifles are different. Hope this helps.
Was that with the Sie. 150 HPBT in .308? If so, that's a big help!
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Xtreme flat nose bullet
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I'll try some Lapua .311 123gr soon. I ran some PPU flat nose from a wasr and a had a failure to fit once in a while. I'm still learning this new reloading hobby.

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Xtreme flat nose bullet
Sounds good but, as I read this on Xtreme I don't think I would buy them for reloading for an SKS.

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- Our Copper Plated Bullets can be run at mid-range jacketed velocities or higher end lead velocities. We do not recommend velocities over 1500 FPS (Feet Per Second) and only a light taper crimp.
Any velocities over 1200 FPS we recommend either our Heavy Plate Concave Base or Hollow Point products for superior accuracy. We do not recommend velocities over 1500 FPS (Feet Per Second) and only a light taper crimp.
- All of our Hard Cast Lead Bullets are approximately 18 on Brinell, our Cowboy lead bullets are approximately 15 on Brinell.
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Started at 18.0 gr settled on 21.5 IMR 4227. Out of Chinese SKS. No feeding or ejection issues . Work up, as all rifles are different. Hope this helps.
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what distances were you shooting and what kind of accuracy were you getting??

I have some flat point ammo that was giving me fits @100yds while the soft point ammo from the same manufacture was still good when I stretched out to 400yds. I dont know what bullets are in the ammo I have but many have commented that they look just like the Xtreme plated bullets and that makes me pause.
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If anyone is looking, Cabela's has Z-MAX bullets for 7.62x39. $115 for 500 but I had some club points so I got them for less than $80 OTD

Edit: Or if you'd sell your soul to the devil for $10 you can get these
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Back when I had an SKS and was loading for it, I used the Winchester jacketed 123gr bulk bullets with great results.
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Back when I had an SKS and was loading for it, I used the Winchester jacketed 123gr bulk bullets with great results.
Like these?
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Like these?
Yup, those are them. Prices have gone up - they used to be really cheap to buy.

I have a No.4 MkII Enfield that loves these bullets. Great bullet for the tight bore .303's.
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what distances were you shooting and what kind of accuracy were you getting??

I have some flat point ammo that was giving me fits @100yds while the soft point ammo from the same manufacture was still good when I stretched out to 400yds. I dont know what bullets are in the ammo I have but many have commented that they look just like the Xtreme plated bullets and that makes me pause.
I have shot these out to 100 yds. And can hit a 12" steel target 10 out of 10 times. I will try to stretch them out to 200 Yds. But I need to be careful not to run them to fast or the platting will start to peel.
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Are any of you casting your own 762x39 bullets? I've had some paypal burning a whole in my pocket for a while now and after going back and forth on what kind of air rifle I wanted I went in a different direction. I picked up some SS pins, the Lee universal decapping die and two Lee bullet mold for 762.

LEE 2-Cavity Mold C312-155-2R 155 Grain Bullet 7.62x39 With Handles NIB #90385 Estimated delivery: Thu. Feb. 6

LEE 2-Cavity Mold CTL312-160-2R 160 Grain Bullet Designed for the 7.62x39 #90361 Estimated delivery: Thu. Feb. 6


With bullets being so hard to find Im hoping this will at least allow me to keep shooting. I was interested in copper plating cast bullets but its been pointed out to me that I may have better luck with powder coating so im looking into that.
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Getting into casting! That's a step I'll be taking in the future when I can free up some garage space.

If you haven't already got it, the Lyman Cast Bullet manual is excellent reading.

I'm hoping that in the neAr future we can get the reloading clubs to do some casting clinics.
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You might want to try some 150-170 grain 30-30 bullets that are typically .309" diameter for longer range shooting and better accuracy then .308" diameter bullets. Also set them way out to touch lands and single load only.
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I load it for my side charge AR in x39 till I got it to eat golden tiger reliably and then just bought a few thousand rds of that.... It's no more or less accurate IMO.
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