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Old 10-21-2013, 8:46 AM
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Without a breach to contain it and force the explosive force in a focused direction down a barrel, the bullet will just pop off with little directed or concentrated force. It is extremely unlikely that the casing would rupture—the bullet is the point of least resistance and will most likely pop off with little force leaving the casing intact. i suppose it could put your eye out—you do wear eye protection right?
To be clear, when the charge ignites while not confined by the breach, the bullet stays put and the casing goes flying.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAK2dDQ-S4Q
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:37 PM
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Scary! Thanks for sharing.
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:04 AM
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Thank you, good information.
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:28 PM
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Good thing you got it back in the right position and no harm was done.

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Old 01-11-2014, 5:54 PM
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I am trying to sort out how to handle this sort of situation: I was at the range today, training with my defensive handguns. I have randomly loaded snap caps (typically 1-2 per magazine). The whole point of my drills with snap caps is to react fast assuming a defensive situation: tap, rack, bang.

Worst case if I had a hang fire, it might go off when I tap (hand gun is kept safely pointed down-range), or when racking. Once ejecting and not in the barrel, what's to happen to the round?

I believe I've actually had this scenario occur about a month ago. I was doing 5 target drills (top left, top right, middle left, middle right, bottom target twice, then working my back up), and somewhere in the middle I had the brass casing exploding all over me. I believe the round went down range (there were some 45s being shot in the nearby lanes - which is good for my drills having to deal with nearby firing, but bad to diagnose this situation). However, I'm not 100% certain. I may have tapped and racked.

What are the scenarios in which I could get brass casing exploding and hitting me? Normally if it was in the barrel and the slide was closed, I don't see how that would occur. I was firing in rapid succession (including dropping the magazine and loading more), so I'm really not certain what did occur.

This occurred with my Glock 26.

Oh, and back to my drills, I don't think I'd change a thing at this point. My priority is defensive shooting. However, I really should be situationally aware, and if not in a real life defensive situation, and not shooting with snap caps, I should keep it downrange for 30 seconds and just sit tight.

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Edit: Had another thought - what if I'd had a stove pipe and the slide hadn't closed all the way? Could the next round have been loaded into the chamber and been fired? If it could, that would explain getting splattered with brass.

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Old 01-11-2014, 6:52 PM
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Thanks for that reminder
Last weekend I taught a friends son the safety and handling of a semi pistol
and after reading your post I realized I totally forgot to educate him on hangfires.
I had gotten so comfortable with the way my guns shoot reliably that I didn't realize that its a very real possibility.
Now I need to take him out again and teach him about hang fires.
Awww shucks, I'll just have to suck it up and spend another morning of shooting.
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Old 01-11-2014, 7:06 PM
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how about .22lr? with bulk boxes I have several that don't go off in my 10/22 and I just eject them, should I still be keeping the round chambered and wait atleast 30seconds?
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Old 01-22-2014, 7:15 AM
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i think this was a very useful information which you shared with us .thank u for your sharing.
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Old 03-20-2014, 8:43 AM
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When I was at ASR this past Sunday a guy 2 benches over had several .223s not fire out of his AR, I advised him not to eject them so quickly but he just ignored me and every time he did this I just tried to keep away, he blamed it on the AR not the ammo, said his AR was malfunctioning, hope he doesn't learn the hard way, BTW he was using Magtech ammo
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:51 AM
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I had two boxes of Remington UMC that gave me 13 out of 100 completely non-fire. They were completely inert, and second attempts did not make them go off. The stack grew and eventually just disposed of them. The primers were pushed in and all sorts of crap. Never buying that in 10mm again.
I'm having the same problem with there 9mm ammo. The last two trips to the range my 9mm shooting Rem UMC would non-fire at least 1 round per mag. The gun had not missed a shot in probably 500 rounds before that. Toke the gun home and gave it a thorough cleaning but still had the problem next time out. Really thought it was the gun but ill buy some other ammo and try it. Now what the heck to do with 250 rnds of UMC.
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Old 03-22-2014, 5:25 PM
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I'm having the same problem with there 9mm ammo. The last two trips to the range my 9mm shooting Rem UMC would non-fire at least 1 round per mag. The gun had not missed a shot in probably 500 rounds before that. Toke the gun home and gave it a thorough cleaning but still had the problem next time out. Really thought it was the gun but ill buy some other ammo and try it. Now what the heck to do with 250 rnds of UMC.
lol, ship them to me, I'll deal with the duds. Seriously, I'd buy them (for reasonable price) if you're interested.
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Old 03-23-2014, 9:15 AM
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Artema,check your pm.
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Your O/P should be printed and handed out at ALL the CGSSA and Appleseed shoots.
I'm going to print some up as a handout at the gun show booths. {with your permission}
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Yet another reason to never buy a revolver ;-)


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well done...complete misunderstanding of the issue and mechanics involved
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Old 07-22-2014, 9:35 AM
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well done...complete misunderstanding of the issue and mechanics involved
You see that little smiley face with the wink? That means it was a joke.

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Old 07-22-2014, 10:28 AM
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I don't get it, your saying the primer went off without being hit? Or it went off but was not strong enough to pop the projectile out of the case?

I have never even heard of that, I didn't know it was possible.
OP had three unfired rounds left in the revolver.

Pulled the trigger three time in a semi-rapid fire.

First trigger pull went click, firing pin hit primer, but no bang.
Second trigger rotated unfired round off the barrel position and fired the second round "Bang".
Third trigger pull also went "Bang".

OP then rotated unfired first round back to the barrel position, where it promptly proceeded to discharge on its own long after the primer was hit by the firing pin.
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Old 08-16-2014, 11:59 AM
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I am a relatively new shooter, and I have never heard of this - and it is scary...



So if I'm at the range, shooting, well, anything, it sounds like, and I hit a "dud" (which I do, on occasion), I should wait 30 seconds before opening the slide and dumping out the dud?

The rule at our range is to keep the weapon pointed down range, and raise your non-firing hand for the range master. You aren't supposed to do anything but keep the weapon pointed down range until he or she arrives.
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Old 10-04-2014, 8:37 PM
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Thanks for the information. This is really helpful and should be made known to all gun owners.
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The rule at our range is to keep the weapon pointed down range, and raise your non-firing hand for the range master. You aren't supposed to do anything but keep the weapon pointed down range until he or she arrives.
I have also been told the same thing. It is hard though when you are out in the boonies and there aren't range masters so it is good that this information is available.
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Old 10-06-2014, 12:17 PM
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I have also been told the same thing. It is hard though when you are out in the boonies and there aren't range masters so it is good that this information is available.
After I read this thread, the next time I went to the range, I put a snap cap randomly into a few of my magazines, just to practice how to react if the weapon doesn't fire.
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