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Old 10-08-2013, 11:30 PM
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Default Camp Pendleton artillery story

I was talking to this guy who was in a artillery unit. He told me and a couple of people, that theres this old story floating around where a unit in training shot"outside the box" and the round landed and hit a COs car with him and wife inside.

Can anyone confirm? He claims its a story used to scare straight boot marines on guns.But it did infact happen
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Old 10-09-2013, 12:33 AM
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Never been to Camp Pendleton, but wouldn't be surprised.

Fort McCoy has these all over the place, and while I was there they dropped a round short on our main route. Had the road shut down till EOD could clear it.


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Old 10-09-2013, 7:39 AM
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Well I have never fired a howitzer I am very familiar with the process for calling for them where to shoot and I am pretty sure boots would never be in the position to **** something up like that unless they put the wrong information into the gun and nobody checked.
Although it wouldn't surprise me my grandpa was an FO ~40 years ago and said people died on a regular basis during their fields ops from one stupid mistake or another.
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Old 10-09-2013, 7:41 AM
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never heard it before. seems like just s story to make sure boots or boot nco's coming to a unit make sure their data is accurate
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Old 10-09-2013, 8:27 AM
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At Camp Roberts in the late 70's a mortar squad of gyrenes laid their tube 3200 mils out and dropped a couple of rounds near the rest stop on 101. No injuries, but some puckered ah's.
That's the only Marine artillery story I know.
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Old 10-09-2013, 5:35 PM
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Nope. Never heard that one.
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Old 10-09-2013, 7:16 PM
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Spent 8 years at CP.... Never heard that tihs once.... I call Bull...
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I never heard if this one either. I have heard one about some illegals that were killed after they wondered on the range and made camp in a shot up APC. I can't remember if it was direct or indirect fire that allegedly did them in.
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I did have a Marine tell me once that he was there when shells were fired and hit a car that was in the wrong place. According to the story several cannons were firing at the same time. I don't have any reason not to believe him.
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Well he was a Marine and anyone who has been in the Marines can attest to the fact that the complete lack of word passed makes for even the most ridiculous rumors to run rampant.
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^^^ you may be right. This would have been in the late 80's or 90's. I did a search and found nothing.
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That was at camp lejuene in the 80's. My Battery OpsChf was in the same battalion. It was a round that skipped out of the impact area and killed a colonel's wife. The lejuene impact area is the size of a postage stamp. The round are more likely to skip if fired at an elevation less than 267 mils. Hence lejuene has "the 267 rule"
We had a bad batch of VT fuzes one time, the setback action had already been released. Those round came out of the tube hot and one blew up ovet basilone road.
Was on a mortar shoot with my 81's plt with 1st Bn 1st Marines at pendleton in december 2009. Had a round leave the tube and land short about 250 yard from the gunline. It didnt go off (it was muddy and raining)
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This is true, but at Lejuene. I worked in the MPs and my Patrol Sup, GySgt was one of the investigators.

The CO was not in the car but the wife was.

Story is the 10th just got in the new gun and the powder charge was increased. As they call the shot they remove x 'bags' of powder. Well the PFC that was making the rounds, failed to remember that he was working the 'big' gun and didn't think of the added charges.

He 'removed' '2' when in real time it should have been '4'. As a result the gun crew overshot the impact area, tagging the Colonel's wife in the car.

Bad...From Battalion down was relieved.
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And here's an article.

October 7th, 1982.

Interesting. (And tragic).

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=5968,1727411
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Musta been lance corporal underground....
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artillery range is North of Basilone Rd.
They shoot toward the Mountain,its impossible shoot outside of box and hit Car of Commanding Officer.
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Don't know about Camp Pendleton, but I do know there was howitzer round shot over the ridge at Mammoth Mountain for avalanche control. It ended up over the hill at Lake Mary. No one hurt, but made everyone involved pucker up a little.
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artillery range is North of Basilone Rd.
They shoot toward the Mountain,its impossible shoot outside of box and hit Car of Commanding Officer.
Its definitely not impossible to shoot out of the box.
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Its definitely not impossible to shoot out of the box.
Not impossible at all, know of it happening at Pendleton many times due to all kinds of issues from bad data computed by the FDC, to wrong data or ammo put on a Howitzer, to bad ammo from the ASP.

Most memorable shoot-out I remember was in 1995-96 timeframe during a Desfirex when a Firing Battery shot out and fragged a Cobra that was hovering over one of the OP's up towards the Delta T.
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Not only was I a Marine but I grew up in Fallbrook. 1st MarDiv to the max.

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Don't know about Camp Pendleton, but I do know there was howitzer round shot over the ridge at Mammoth Mountain for avalanche control. It ended up over the hill at Lake Mary. No one hurt, but made everyone involved pucker up a little.

When did Mammoth have an overshoot?
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When did Mammoth have an overshoot?
Back in the early 80's IIRC. I'll do some research on it and add a link if I can find it.
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artillery range is North of Basilone Rd.
They shoot toward the Mountain,its impossible shoot outside of box and hit Car of Commanding Officer.
Thats not true I have seen them shooting arty from the training area next to the old 101 that runs parallel to the 5.
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Back in the early 80's IIRC. I'll do some research on it and add a link if I can find it.
Oh, that was back in recoilless rifle days.

Bit hard to do that with the way the howitzers are set up now.
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I remember that well , it was one of our Gunny's favorite talking points!
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