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Old 09-17-2013, 11:33 PM
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I just got home from from BUYING A GUN OFF A CALGUNS USER and got on here, only to get a screen saying:

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And again 'kaendar/Shabazz/etc.'

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

What in the tarnation is up with this? I reckon someone has mistaken me for a troll or someone else? Perhaps an old user with a similar username? I was Baconrepublic.. I just joined the forum a week or 2 ago and dont understand why I was banned. I havent broken any rules to the best of my knowledge, and if I have, can I at least but told what, why, and when before im banned? Im sorry to say but im quite mad and upset. I had met a few guys on here I was going to go shooting with. If this is some mistake please lift the ban. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.
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Old 09-17-2013, 11:36 PM
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I mean, I could see if I could be linked to some sock puppet account, but im a real person, a real contributor. I just bought a rifle today off a user I met on here. Im thinking this is some sort of mistake or misunderstanding.
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btw, the guy I bought the rifle from is Gene1986 on here I believe. He can verify im a real person and did business with him. Im no troll or bot etc.
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Im guessing a mod is confusing me for a past or existing member??? The only thing I can think of besides this being an honest mistake is maybe an IP address? I just bought this laptop used off of Craigslist about a month ago, perhaps the guy that owned it before me is keander/shabazz/etc??
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btw, the guy I bought the rifle from is Gene1986 on here I believe. He can verify im a real person and did business with him. Im no troll or bot etc.
That's what every troll says just before (and apparently after) they get banned.
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All jokes aside, if a calgunner had a question for admin, how/who do they contact?
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That's what every troll says just before (and apparently after) they get banned.
well im no troll. this caught me completely off guard. Im a local California resident. I had plans already to meet up with some guys on here from the LA chapter.. im a real person, not a troll account.
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Yeah, I might buy that if you didn't share a singular unique IP address with your other accounts, use the same aol.com email and didn't give out the email address from one of your old accounts.

Goodbye again 'Hooah92/Kaendar/etc.'
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Yeah, I might buy that if you didn't share a singular unique IP address with your other accounts, use the same aol.com email and didn't give out the email address from one of your old accounts.

Goodbye again 'Hooah92/Kaendar/etc.'
You want to double check those email accounts buddy? I dont even think its possible to register multiple accounts under the same email. I demand to speak with another mod besides Kestryll. This is outrageous. Whoever is above Kestryll, I want to take this up with them. Someone seems to be on a power trip, or is really mistaking me for someone else. I told you I bought a used laptop from a guy off Craigslist. Maybe you werent aware, but IP addresses stay the same for a device.
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Lol, I dont think there is anyone above Kestryll
In that case, Kestryll needs to re think his ban decisions.. Calguns is a prestigious organization from what ive seen, this doesnt make it look good tho, especially when it deals with an active member in the 2A community like myself.
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You want to double check those email accounts buddy? I dont even think its possible to register multiple accounts under the same email. I demand to speak with another mod besides Kestryll. This is outrageous. Whoever is above Kestryll, I want to take this up with them. Someone seems to be on a power trip, or is really mistaking me for someone else. I told you I bought a used laptop from a guy off Craigslist. Maybe you werent aware, but IP addresses stay the same for a device.
Incorrect. MAC addresses stay the same for devices that have them. IP addresses are unique to you, your location, and your ISP.

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Old 09-18-2013, 12:22 AM
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You want to double check those email accounts buddy? I dont even think its possible to register multiple accounts under the same email. I demand to speak with another mod besides Kestryll. This is outrageous. Whoever is above Kestryll, I want to take this up with them. Someone seems to be on a power trip, or is really mistaking me for someone else. I told you I bought a used laptop from a guy off Craigslist. Maybe you werent aware, but IP addresses stay the same for a device.
I would be the person above Kestryll. He is under me right now :-D and we both concur 'with full mouths' that your ban stands. have a nice day.
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Uhhm , hate to break this to you and all, but Kes kinda owns Calguns, so yeah...enjoy arf.com.
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I am sure Kestryll aware that IP address changes base on the ISP and MAC address is the same for the NIC card.
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Old 09-18-2013, 12:28 AM
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Oh I look at more than just a single IP, of course when it's a static IP from roadrunner that helps...
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this has sparked my curiosity, why did he get banned in the first place ?
and good to know kestryll is the owner of calguns, my hats off to you sir !
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I'd have to dig back through the posts from six accounts to find out what happened because frankly I don't remember.
It's late though and I have to get up early for work so maybe I'll dig through it all tomorrow.
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Im not giving up dude. Im a California gun enthusiast and 2A rights activist and I love this forum. I want to be able to interact with other like minded individuals. Stop being an internet Nazi. Drop the personal vendetta. Focus on the retarded asshat politicians making the 3rd reich gun laws which screws us BOTH over. Show some maturity dude. Im sure youre older than me.
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lmao. 6 accounts. what a dam troll . enough said.
you get some rest , we need you sharp to run this forum. us night owls will be here to chat with the troll's.
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Who has the coolest looking Mossberg 715T, Shabazz, Kaendar or Baconrepublic? Or was the Mossberg 715T included with the laptop you bought off of Craigslist?
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There is no trolling whatsoever. Look up the definition of troll. This guy just has it out for me.
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Im not giving up dude. Im a California gun enthusiast and 2A rights activist and I love this forum. I want to be able to interact with other like minded individuals. Stop being an internet Nazi. Drop the personal vendetta. Focus on the retarded asshat politicians making the 3rd reich gun laws which screws us BOTH over. Show some maturity dude. Im sure youre older than me.
What's the record for the earliest a thread degrades to a nazi reference?
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There is no trolling whatsoever. Look up the definition of troll. This guy just has it out for me.
"This Guy" is the sites owner, how much clearer can he be that your not wanted here?

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Im a genuine contributor to the community. He needs to give it up. Hes acting like the State of California right now. Dianne Fienstein in particular and im an assault rifle.
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First response (so technically the second post).
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Im not giving up dude. Im a California gun enthusiast and 2A rights activist and I love this forum. I want to be able to interact with other like minded individuals. Stop being an internet Nazi. Drop the personal vendetta. Focus on the retarded asshat politicians making the 3rd reich gun laws which screws us BOTH over. Show some maturity dude. Im sure youre older than me.

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Im a genuine contributor to the community. He needs to give it up. Hes acting like the State of California right now. Dianne Fienstein in particular and im an assault rifle.
You need to worry a bit less about getting banned from Calguns and start worrying a bit more about the fact that Shabazz and Kaendar are in your house right now armed with Mossberg 715T rifles. And Kaendar is high as a kite on medical marijuana, so he could do anything.
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Im not giving up dude. Im a California gun enthusiast and 2A rights activist and I love this forum. I want to be able to interact with other like minded individuals. Stop being an internet Nazi. Drop the personal vendetta. Focus on the retarded asshat politicians making the 3rd reich gun laws which screws us BOTH over. Show some maturity dude. Im sure youre older than me.
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We have the time and the hammers.
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