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Old 08-27-2013, 4:18 PM
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Default Notary Public as Just Cause????

I know this seems kind of weird but, go with it for a minute.

My wife, who is a Notary, was in a conversation with a gentleman the other day on the subject of guns.

When he mentioned that, her being a Notary, it would be easier for her to get an LTC.

At first we both laughed about the idea but, there is the whole “oath to protect the state seal” thing and if it is stolen you are liable.

IDK who would want the seal and, even though it is kind of funny we were wondering if this might really serve as some kind of “just cause”

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Old 08-27-2013, 4:48 PM
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What county are you in
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Old 08-27-2013, 5:03 PM
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San Bernardino. Not really thinking about an ltc. Just more of a hypothetical.
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Old 08-27-2013, 5:23 PM
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That's one of a million reasons that SB County will consider good cause.
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Old 08-27-2013, 7:48 PM
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Yep your in a good county and if you really want one you should not have much trouble except for how long it takes
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Old 08-27-2013, 8:07 PM
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Well the thing is .... I was thinking that it would probably work in SB county but what about some of the others.

It's not that difficult to become a Notary and if it works somewhere else, it might be a good way of getting an LTC.

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Old 08-27-2013, 9:19 PM
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This is an intriguing discussions... think it would fly in Orange County?! I could try as I am a Notary and want an LTC...
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Old 08-29-2013, 9:39 AM
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Interesting, won't work here in Alameda County.
They never give CCW unless you are rich or a friend of the sheriff.
I'm a Notary Public and a real estate broker; technically jobs that can put my safety at risk.

Can't get one.......
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:46 AM
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"Just Cause", perhaps. "Good Cause"? Not so much.

The use of deadly force to fulfill an oath to protect the California Seal does not seem persuasive.

Besides, the California Seal is already protected:

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If the Notary travels to different areas, the travel concerns might be more valuable than the seal itself.

If you get calls to drive to unknown areas as a single person to notarize documents, the fact that you are driving into or through high crime areas makes the self protection angle more interesting.

If you work from an office, then the owners can authorize you to carry concealed at the place of business. the stamp and book stays locked up in the business.

So you can defend the seal and yourself at work if the owner allows for self defense.
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I know this seems kind of weird but, go with it for a minute.... snip

...there is the whole “oath to protect the state seal” thing and if it is stolen you are liable.

IDK who would want the seal and, even though it is kind of funny we were wondering if this might really serve as some kind of “just cause”

Jim
You would use deadly force to prevent the theft of a notary seal?
Think about it.

You could use travel notary service as a dangerous job to her personal safety in a "good cause" statement.
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:36 AM
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In my previous post, I said it wouldn't work.
I have decided to test it here in Alameda County.

I can blow a few hundred and the time to go through the process.
At worst I get told no after I get down the pipe so far it has cost me the money for training and such. But the range time isn't a loss.

I don't see a problem with the psych evaluation. But I have been told I'm crazy when I tell off color jokes. 8-)

My background is clean, but they want parking tickets and traffic accidents. I guess to see if you remain calm and such. Okay.

I currently go through DOJ every two years for a live scan. My Notary Commission and my RE Broker's License are staggered. I'm soon to do livescan for my kid's school so I can do field trips.

So for me a livescan and DOJ background check is a walk in the park.
References? No big deal, I have numerous, non-relatives that live in Alameda County that would have no issue with me having a CCW and pistol in their presence and can attest to "good moral character". They are everything from engineering professionals to Owners of daycare services.

I don't think I'll have an issue with qualification, I've been shooting since I was about nine, but I plan to qualify with the new XD40 that I'm waiting for. Pickup is the 16th.

As far as all the other questions about drug use, beating your wife, etc., etc..
Never been in any trouble with the police.

We shall see.........
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