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Old 08-15-2013, 5:23 PM
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any limited or esp div m&ps out there?
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Old 08-17-2013, 6:27 AM
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can anyone help me identify if i have "new" or "old" features on my new M&P 9? i read something about notches on the barrel... the date on the test cartridge is 7/10/13. serial # starts with HPR. also, what difference do these features really make? ( this is my first handgun ). thanks in advance.
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Old 08-17-2013, 8:59 AM
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can anyone help me identify if i have "new" or "old" features on my new M&P 9? i read something about notches on the barrel... the date on the test cartridge is 7/10/13. serial # starts with HPR. also, what difference do these features really make? ( this is my first handgun ). thanks in advance.
Generally speaking, the only major differences as far as I know with the latest batch of m&p's this last year is the a more pronounced trigger reset.

I think the pro series have a newer barrel with a faster twist rate.

Hopefully someone will correct me if i'm wrong.
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Old 08-17-2013, 10:55 AM
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If you know how to take apart your gun, you can tell by removing the sear housing to see if there's a large hole in it. The updated version does not have the hole. You can also look at the sear. I think the old version is a bit rounded off and flatter at the top compared to the new version which is actually the same sear as the pro series now. The new barrel should have 2 dimples and not just associated with the pro series. The slide stop looks a bit different from the regular one too( i think its a bit more textured/angled) My 4/13 M&P9 has all the new features.

Now I just realized few days ago that the CA roster model might not have any updates because it might require it to be resubmitted for testing (not sure, just a guess)
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Old 08-17-2013, 11:05 AM
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Now I just realized few days ago that the CA roster model might not have any updates because it might require it to be resubmitted for testing (not sure, just a guess)
that's an interesting point... I wonder if a particular model refinement/fix (by the manufacture) would require re-submitting to DOJ for roster approval?...

I don't know how often manufactures actually make changes without releasing as a new version?... If second submittal is required, I doubt they will bother to release them in CA (with the new micro-stamp garbage).
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Old 08-17-2013, 11:24 AM
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I believe I read a while back that any internal modifications of working parts require it for retesting. I'd assume the sear housing changes with new sear and springs would drop it off the roster. These were parts adopted from the Pro series and VTAC series that never made it to the roster.

Gen4 Glocks required retesting (which they refused) because of the mag release change and dual recoil rod?
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Old 08-18-2013, 9:50 PM
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Fresh out of the holding pin. Pretty standard for now but love that TiN coating.

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I've only had mine for a little while.

Other than a milled slide for my RMR02 and suppressor height sights I haven't done much to it.

Looking to pick up the RAM and Trigger kits from APEX. Anyone have any experience with these? How far would you go. DCAEK, RAM, Trigger? Are these hard to install?






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Old 08-27-2013, 12:00 PM
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^^^ nice gun - who did the slide?
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Old 08-27-2013, 1:16 PM
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Thanks... The slide was done at ATEI. I only sent the slide. Now that I had done it i wish i had sent the whole gun and had them do a Stipple job on it.

Shoots pretty good for an M&P though... I'm used to my Kimber Warrior II so it took a little getting used to but not too bad!
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Old 08-27-2013, 3:59 PM
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I've only had mine for a little while.

Other than a milled slide for my RMR02 and suppressor height sights I haven't done much to it.

Looking to pick up the RAM and Trigger kits from APEX. Anyone have any experience with these? How far would you go. DCAEK, RAM, Trigger? Are these hard to install?





Looking good. Ram, trigger, sear, and springs are easy to install. Hammer an punch is really all you need.

The USB, on the other hand will require a decent vice/brass drift/hammer combo to remove the rear sight. I used a sight pusher I bought from midway specifically for the m&p to make the install a breeze.
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cant wait till i pick up my m&p9l pro. my family is almost complete... just need to find a shield somewhere in the bay area
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Old 08-27-2013, 7:55 PM
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Looking good. Ram, trigger, sear, and springs are easy to install. Hammer an punch is really all you need.

The USB, on the other hand will require a decent vice/brass drift/hammer combo to remove the rear sight. I used a sight pusher I bought from midway specifically for the m&p to make the install a breeze.
Thanks for the info... Sorry if this is a dumb question... what is USB? My rear sight is now moved to in front of the RMR and the spot where the old sight was is now milled away.

Thanks again for the advice on APEX... looks like i need to bust out the credit card again
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Old 08-27-2013, 8:49 PM
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:09 PM
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Thanks for the info... Sorry if this is a dumb question... what is USB? My rear sight is now moved to in front of the RMR and the spot where the old sight was is now milled away.

Thanks again for the advice on APEX... looks like i need to bust out the credit card again
Ultimate Striker Block. Greatly reduces the grittiness of the trigger's take up and improves the reset a little. Its part of the DCAEK already.

The entire kit makes it a whole new gun! Don't worry about the credit card, "buy once, cry once"
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:17 PM
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Dying to get my hands on a 9mm shield...but no luck here in southern California..Any news?
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:18 PM
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Figured I should throw a few pics up too. Don't mind my poor man's CORE copy.... lol


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Old 09-09-2013, 10:54 PM
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Wow there's something sexy about that 45 fde
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ok so i just got mine out of jail a few hours ago. I FREAKIN LOVE IT.

question tho, i thought there was a small, med, and large grip that came with it. for some reason mine came with 3 med grips....... wth ! should i call S&W ? id really like to try the large and small......
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ok so i just got mine out of jail a few hours ago. I FREAKIN LOVE IT.

question tho, i thought there was a small, med, and large grip that came with it. for some reason mine came with 3 med grips....... wth ! should i call S&W ? id really like to try the large and small......
If it was BNIB then I would call or talk to whoever you bought it from
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If it was BNIB then I would call or talk to whoever you bought it from
i ended up claling S&W, there sending me the large and small in the mail free of charge and there letting me keep the old ones. there customer service is outstanding !



heres a pic of mine, the pic isent as nice as all of yours, but its the best i can do with a phone camera. lol

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Old 09-25-2013, 3:31 PM
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I drove mine to APEX yesterday where it'll live for 4-6 weeks.

When it returns:

DCAEK
Polymer AEK trigger
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removal of magazine disconnect
addition of Heinie Straight 8 sights
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Old 10-08-2013, 8:12 AM
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Just got my M&P 9 Pro Series C.O.R.E.

Gotta take her out to see if she needs APEX parts. I may actually stipple both of my M&P's, if I can grow a pair.





Has the JPoint sight on it. That will take shotgun duty when I get an RMR.

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The need of an APEX is not even a question... it's an answer.
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Old 10-08-2013, 8:18 AM
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Well, the trigger actually feels real nice. Just got it a couple of days ago, so going to the range tomorrow to see.

If it does, I may just do the whole shebang and get the aluminum trigger as well.
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Well, the trigger actually feels real nice. Just got it a couple of days ago, so going to the range tomorrow to see.

If it does, I may just do the whole shebang and get the aluminum trigger as well.
When I said I was buying an M&P, everyone said "you'd better buy an APEX too". So, honestly, I have never fired a M&P without one. I have the old 1st Gen Apex kits in my M&P9s and Shied. The aluminum trigger looks really nice, I have not tried one in person.

I dry fired a standard M&P trigger a few times and from what I can tell, night and day. Your CORE should be better than an actual M&P,
I forgot about that. So it's probly decent. Congrats on the purchase.
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My Pro9 trigger was pretty bad in the take up. It felt like the I was rubbing a spring against a surface. It's only noticeable in the pretravel so after the first shot, if you shoot to reset, you don't really notice it at all. The USB with my apex comp kit got rid of it. It also lightened the trigger by a good amount (the whole kit). I still have a stock trigger on my 40c and it's almost night and day compared to my FSS and Comp kits but it's not something I want to spend another $70 on atm. Also new gen FS (4 1/4") non CA versions seem to have a better trigger than the Pro/Core series. My Pro (and your CORE from the picture) are not sporting the full set of upgrades yet. The frame and sear housing are the obvious ones.
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My Pro9 trigger was pretty bad in the take up. It felt like the I was rubbing a spring against a surface. It's only noticeable in the pretravel so after the first shot, if you shoot to reset, you don't really notice it at all. The USB with my apex comp kit got rid of it. It also lightened the trigger by a good amount (the whole kit). I still have a stock trigger on my 40c and it's almost night and day compared to my FSS and Comp kits but it's not something I want to spend another $70 on atm. Also new gen FS (4 1/4") non CA versions seem to have a better trigger than the Pro/Core series. My Pro (and your CORE from the picture) are not sporting the full set of upgrades yet. The frame and sear housing are the obvious ones.
It is quite a bit better than my compact was and is still almost as nice, even with the Apex kit in the compact. I'm happy with the weight. The only thing that seems to be a little under par, is the grittiness M&P's are known for. I think I'll polish up the striker block and see if it goes away. Still may get the trigger. I love the way my wife's Ruger LC9 trigger is. I like the trigger safety lever inside the trigger, better than I do the M&P trigger safety. Not sure if I'll like it, but I guess I can sell it, if I don't. I gotta say though, the only thing I liked about the Glock, was the trigger. So I think I will.

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When I said I was buying an M&P, everyone said "you'd better buy an APEX too". So, honestly, I have never fired a M&P without one. I have the old 1st Gen Apex kits in my M&P9s and Shied. The aluminum trigger looks really nice, I have not tried one in person.

I dry fired a standard M&P trigger a few times and from what I can tell, night and day. Your CORE should be better than an actual M&P,
I forgot about that. So it's probly decent. Congrats on the purchase.
Thanks. Yea it IS decent. I would say it is satisfactory. Not perfect, but acceptable. I really like the break. Barely any creep and is only about 4.5 pounds. The reset isn't too bad and over travel is just fine. The think I hate the most, is the take up. It even sucks with the Apex DCAEK. I hear the Apex trigger fixes the take up.

Either way, it is leagues better than my compact, when it was stock. I'll get a good idea of what needs to be done after I run about 2-300 rounds through it, this week.
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Hanging in a vest on my bedpost with extra mags and other supplies.

How are you liking that light for the price?
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How are you liking that light for the price?
I've only had it about a week, but it feels solidly built, and it sure is bright. I tested it on myself by flashing it at a mirror at about 10 ft and it definitely ruined my night vision for a few minutes. Nutnfancy did a video on it that sold me.
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