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Old 07-07-2013, 7:19 PM
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Default FFL Transfer and CA Sales Tax

So I was going to buy a Maadi AK off of Atlantic Firearms and I called my FFL to arrange the transfer. Of course, I checked the cost of the transfer and not only did he say I had to pay the transfer fee but I also had to pay California sales tax on the item. News to me. So my question is; are there any FFL's in SoCal that do not require you to pay sales tax and if so, where. Thanks guys
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I don't think they have any choice in the matter, plus I believe you get taxed if a gun goes FFL to FFL even if gun is used.
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Negative, its now california law......so lame
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Its been CA law for quite some time. BoE has been cracking down though and it is the FFL's responsibility to collect taxes on the purchase. If they don't collect the taxes and the BoE audits them, they foot the bill. Therefor most FFL's have started collecting the taxes
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Its been CA law for quite some time. BoE has been cracking down though and it is the FFL's responsibility to collect taxes on the purchase. If they don't collect the taxes and the BoE audits them, they foot the bill. Therefor most FFL's have started collecting the taxes
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A sticky on the handguns forum spells it all out - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=541404
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I feel you pain, been like that since Nov 2011.
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Reality is you have a legal requirement to pay sales tax for all out of state purchases you make and have shipped to CA. It's not limited to firearms. If you purchase something's where sales tax isn't withheld, by law you are required to report that on you annual state tax return. Now, it's not like anyone was following that law and that is why places like Amazon are now being forced to collect sales tax.
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I don't know why but my FFL asked me if this was a present from my wife. I asked why and he said you don't want to pay salestax do you? I said, yes it was a present from my wife and he didn't charge me tax.
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Yes it's the law and it should be illegal, along with taxing CRV and a laundry list of other shenanigans
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Yes it's the law and it should be illegal, along with taxing CRV and a laundry list of other shenanigans
Like taxing private party used car sales? That one really grinds my gears
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Its the tax ourselves into prosperity garbage. Its just bad legislation through and through
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Negative, its now california law......so lame
^^ this. No getting around that, unfortunately.
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Used to order more online now I try to do ppt if possible. Saves me the headache and I get to see/inspect prior to my purchase.
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I don't know why but my FFL asked me if this was a present from my wife. I asked why and he said you don't want to pay salestax do you? I said, yes it was a present from my wife and he didn't charge me tax.
LOL. I hope that FFL doesn't get audited. He is taking on your tax liability for a transfer fee. Great thinking.
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Its been CA law for quite some time.
Since the 1930s.

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BoE has been cracking down though and it is the FFL's responsibility to collect taxes on the purchase.
Actually, it's the dealers responsibility to pay the sales tax but he is allowed to collect it from the customer.

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If they don't collect the taxes and the BoE audits them, they foot the bill. Therefor most FFL's have started collecting the taxes
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LOL. I hope that FFL doesn't get audited. He is taking on your tax liability for a transfer fee. Great thinking.
I assumed there was some kind of rule about gifts. I doubt he would break the law and jeopordize his business. Maybe as the receiver of a gift you don't have tax liability because you are not the purchaser.
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Heads up, On Target shooting range in Laguna Hills doesnt charge the sales tax. Those guys are *****s but at least they have this going for them
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Since the 1930s.



Actually, it's the dealers responsibility to pay the sales tax but he is allowed to collect it from the customer.



Yep!
This! And if he does not collect it from you he has to pay it regardless.
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So it's a legal REQUIREMENT for an FFL to collect the tax? Because I thought I remembered a period of time where some FFLs wouldn't collect the tax and just say that it was your responsibility to report it.
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So it's a legal REQUIREMENT for an FFL to collect the tax? Because I thought I remembered a period of time where some FFLs wouldn't collect the tax and just say that it was your responsibility to report it.
Quite true but the BOE put a stop to that.
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You don't notice what a load of crap it all is until you order a black powder rifle to your door minus all this red tape and fees
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Total garbage. I hate this state more than dog sh*t on my shoe
Yep. But it's not just a gun thing, it's a California Democratic raping of it's citizens on everything thing.....
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Hidden taxes are not just a CA State thing.

Look at Obamacare, and the tax that it places on all real estate transactions (buried deep).
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Interstate FFL-to-FFL transfer is subject to a use tax, not a sales tax, whether the gun is new or used. Board of Equalization is cracking down on EVERYONE big-time, so most all FFLs collect it. That's why it often makes sense to only ship and DROS the receiver to the FFL. On an expensive gun, that could save you a decent amount of $$.

Collecting tax on the intrastate transfers is what annoys me. You got inbound FFLs that won't accept a firearm from a private citizen and then incorrectly tax you when you use the FFL they require you to use.
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The transfer tax has been pulled out of Obamascare (for now). But in spirit, I hear ya.

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Look at Obamacare, and the tax that it places on all real estate transactions (buried deep).
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I just love the irony of it. We won a war of independence over taxes (along with other things) and now what do we have? A s**t ton of taxes...
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