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Old 06-06-2013, 8:42 PM
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Default Umbrella Corp Stripped lower in Ceracote FDE

Not really a deal @ $215 but its Ceracoted in FDE and they rarely release lowers out.

https://www.ucwrg.com/materiel/lower...ower-receiver/
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Old 06-06-2013, 8:48 PM
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Don't understand the fascination.
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Old 06-06-2013, 8:51 PM
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Don't understand the fascination.
If you're not a Resident Evil fan then you wouldn't..

Hey, if you have to have a mark on your lower, it might as well be something sorta cool.. and they aren't priced that much more than any other lower..

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Don't understand the fascination.
I understand the fascination, but I don't understand how they could build their name (and the only reason people want their products) by ripping off Capcom (who made the Resident Evil series).
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Old 06-06-2013, 9:28 PM
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If it was just marked racoon city! LOL
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I understand the fascination, but I don't understand how they could build their name (and the only reason people want their products) by ripping off Capcom (who made the Resident Evil series).
They acquired the rights to the name IIRC so I'm sure there is some royalties involved.
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I understand the fascination, but I don't understand how they could build their name (and the only reason people want their products) by ripping off Capcom (who made the Resident Evil series).
Yea, as stated they have rights from Capcom to use the name "Umbrella Corporation" and the logo too. No "ripping off" involved

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Old 06-07-2013, 6:51 AM
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not gonna lie...... I just picked one up. Nerd in me couldn't let that go.
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Pretty cool
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would be less to just pay to get the icon engraved on your lower, if you must have the logo.
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They acquired the rights to the name IIRC so I'm sure there is some royalties involved.
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Yea, as stated they have rights from Capcom to use the name "Umbrella Corporation" and the logo too. No "ripping off" involved
Any links to back this up? For the record, I would very much like to be wrong here. If that were the case, my respect for both companies would go up.

When these lowers first came out a year or two ago, there was a lot of question as to the licensing. As I understand it, this company registered the name "Umbrella" for use in the firearms industry, which was somehow legal to do (I'm not a lawyer, so I can't explain the technicalities) without having to license it from Capcom.

As for the logo, it actually cannot be copyrighted. Here's a wikipedia link. Technically, ANY company could release a lower with an umbrella logo.
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I don't see the logo as a registered trademark in the USPTO database, so there's no restriction to use it.

also, simple geometry shapes are not eligible for trademarking.
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I would like to get one but the cheapest transfer I can find it 75$, I aint looking to pay that on a $215 lower, FDE and Umbrella corps or not.
That is pretty awesome though. I really want to get it.
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It looks cool but this is what going through my mind..Noveske or UC, Noveske or UC.....nah.. Ill stick to buying more Noveske!!
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Any links to back this up? For the record, I would very much like to be wrong here. If that were the case, my respect for both companies would go up.

When these lowers first came out a year or two ago, there was a lot of question as to the licensing. As I understand it, this company registered the name "Umbrella" for use in the firearms industry, which was somehow legal to do (I'm not a lawyer, so I can't explain the technicalities) without having to license it from Capcom.

As for the logo, it actually cannot be copyrighted. Here's a wikipedia link. Technically, ANY company could release a lower with an umbrella logo.
It was mentioned here:

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum...oup-Rifle-Grip

http://www.ar15news.com/category/man...esearch-group/


As far as legalities I don't know. I would assume if there was some licensing needed UCWRG took care of it.
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I like mine, wish I would have bought 2 since they were only $130 when I got it.
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i wouldn't mind a black one of these, anybody know when they come back in stock?

and yes, the nerd in me can't resist either lol
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Any links to back this up? For the record, I would very much like to be wrong here. If that were the case, my respect for both companies would go up.

When these lowers first came out a year or two ago, there was a lot of question as to the licensing. As I understand it, this company registered the name "Umbrella" for use in the firearms industry, which was somehow legal to do (I'm not a lawyer, so I can't explain the technicalities) without having to license it from Capcom.

As for the logo, it actually cannot be copyrighted. Here's a wikipedia link. Technically, ANY company could release a lower with an umbrella logo.
Guys, copyright is not involved here as that's a different issue and pertains to Capcom/Sony's artistic use in the video and game industries. There are actually numerous "Umbrella Corporations" throughout the United States all conducting legitimate business in their various industries with no connection to Sony (and some prior to Capcom's use). As for the logo, again, copyright and trademarks are two different things. We hold federal trademarks for both the name as well as the logo for the firearms industry. So no, any company cannot release a product in our industry using the name or logo without our permission.
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I don't see the logo as a registered trademark in the USPTO database, so there's no restriction to use it.

also, simple geometry shapes are not eligible for trademarking.
See these two links for our firearms industry trademark registrations:
http://www.trademarkia.com/umbrella-...-76681260.html
http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-76681259.html

As for the geometric shape eligibility, you are confusing the "basic geometric shapes are not possible to copyright" rule with federal trademark registration and how logos work for business. Two different animals; we hold trademarks not copyrights so that doesn't apply. But it does explain why you can find similar umbrella logos all over the internet that don't violate either.
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i wouldn't mind a black one of these, anybody know when they come back in stock?

and yes, the nerd in me can't resist either lol
August hchan42!
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August hchan42!
Yay! Looking forward to it!

What about uppers? I would have grabbed a FDE lower and been quite happy about it, but I'd want a matching upper. Less of an issue with black, which should match my existing uppers no problem. So I look forward to August! (I'd also be happy with FDE lower+upper, of course)
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I would like to get one but the cheapest transfer I can find it 75$, I aint looking to pay that on a $215 lower, FDE and Umbrella corps or not.
That is pretty awesome though. I really want to get it.
If I was looking to do that I'd go with an 80% and have it engraved. Plus no registration. Win.
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Everyones got favorite stuff it may be Punisher, Umbrella Corp, Noveske.. Whatever floats your boat. I'll stick with my cheapy ST-15 but nice post.
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