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Old 05-06-2013, 11:12 AM
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Default New Trijicon VCOG

For those of you who wanted an accupoint with ACOG reticle or a variable power ACOG, Trijicon is coming out with the VCOG (Variable Combat Optical Gunsite)

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/produ...t1.php?id=VCOG
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:24 AM
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They should have taken an ACOG TA31 and put it in a 1-6x, instead of this new one. I think Trijicon missed the target with this new one.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:29 AM
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That’s what I’m talkin about... Looks like Trijicon started to listen to what people wanted.

Probably time to sell my TA31F ACOG but I’ll have to wait… I have a feeling this is going to be in the 2k price range

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Old 05-06-2013, 11:33 AM
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They should have taken an ACOG TA31 and put it in a 1-6x, instead of this new one. I think Trijicon missed the target with this new one.
Aside from shape and styling it would essentially be the same thing…

I doubt it would even be possible to cram a variable optic into their fixed optic design…

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Old 05-06-2013, 11:35 AM
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I don't think I would ever replace my ACOG, but I may be willing to replace my 1-4 accupoint depending on the reviews and price. Wonder how this will stack up against our SWFA 1-6
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looks ok!
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:53 AM
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I don't think I would ever replace my ACOG
I’ve said that a few times over the past couple years… but 90% of my range time still goes to my low power variables (PST 1-4x and SWFA 1-6x).

I really could sell my TA31F and not miss it… but it’s my only holdover optic so I keep it around.

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Wonder how this will stack up against our SWFA 1-6
From a glass standpoint, SWFA 1-6 vs ACOG, I was kinda of blown away with that SWFA did. Optical clarity exceeded what I thought I was going to get, it’s not too far off from my ACOG at least to my eye (4x vs 4x).

Yet to see what the VCOG is going to cost, but I will venture to guess it’s going to make the SWFA 1-6x look like an extreme bargain.
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Yet to see what the VCOG is going to cost, but I will venture to guess it’s going to make the SWFA 1-6x look like an extreme bargain.
I read MSRP is $2200 and some change. So probably around a $2k retail...
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price will be over 2000... its not replacing my accupoint for some geewhiz reticle no one ever uses.
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So my estimation was pretty spot on…

There was no way it was going to be cheaper than an Accupoint or the standard ACOG. They have added what looks to be ACOG durability to a variable optic design in first focal plane.

Personally I think this scopes going to be a winner (for someone looking for a combat optic), and great competition for someone who would have purchased an Elcan SpecterDR over an ACOG because they wanted a variable optic instead.

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I read MSRP is $2200 and some change. So probably around a $2k retail...
Yikes! I'll be keeping my accupoint and SWFA
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It doesnt have the ACOG reticle. No fiber optic illumination either. Reticle washes out in bright sunlight.
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It doesnt have the ACOG reticle. No fiber optic illumination either. Reticle washes out in bright sunlight.
Not sure which optic you are referring to in your comparison.... ACOG vs VCOG?
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The VCOG.
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2k and not daylight bright would be a dealbreaker for me. But i cant find anything to confirm or deny it. How did you find it to be not daylight bright?
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The VCOG.
It looks to share the same reticle as the ACOG…

The horseshoe is available along with the crosshair…
http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/produc....php?pid=TA31H
http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/assets...-Features1.jpg

I wouldn’t get too hung up on the fiber optic illumination… there are times where it’s been a downside on my TA31F. When shooting in shade I get wash out even with fiber optic when the target is in the sun and at night often times the tritium isn’t bright enough to really shoot with. Battery operation gives more control over illumination. Pros and cons to both systems.

Problemchild made a thread with these issues in an ACOG vs LED ACOG thread.

Considering its made by Trijicon I’m sure both would be day light bright, at least I hope it would be. I’ve considered selling my TA31 for an LED model, I just wish they made one similar to the TA11.
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Old 05-06-2013, 2:26 PM
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I've handled the production model and was disappointed. I wouldn't consider it an upgrade from my accupoint. Remember that it's battery powered with FFP so it's harder to illuminate. Make sure you handle it firsthand before buying is all I can say. It's heavy too.
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Old 05-06-2013, 2:33 PM
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I'm meh about it. I love the ACOG because of the ridiculous field of view and super high quality image. There's nothing like it.

I feel like this VCOG is no different from anything else available already... except maybe the reticle.

When people start getting full production models, we will see how good it is.

At that price point, the glass has to be stupendously good with bomb proof tracking for me to consider it.

It's too bad it looks like something out of NC Star :P

If it ends up being all that and a bag of chips, with no fisheye effect at 1x, I'd pick one up.
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Bummer. Well, i wasnt going to buy another scope anyway....hahaha.
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MAH BAD... didn't realize this was FFP, that changes the game a bit. :P Still ugly as sin though.
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MAH BAD... didn't realize this was FFP, that changes the game a bit. :P Still ugly as sin though.
Haha, while I do agree, you know looks isn’t the best way to choose which optic to shoot with. But ya, not the cleanest looking optic. ACOG on the other hand looks very much at home sitting on top of an AR.

One thing I do like about it… and ACOGs in general… I don’t have to level the scope reticle. It’s a tedious task which I do way too often with traditional scopes.

ACOG and VCOG only seem to attach one way… straight and level.
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Last week I went to put on scope levels on 3 scopes... I hooked some paracord to some weight onto a tree branch about 60-70 feet away.... who woulda thought the wind could blow that HARD @#$*&@

I thought the ACOG was a dumb idea until i looked through one.

Hope it's the same with the VCOG.
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This is made to compete with Elcans, I'd take this over a battery powered Elian. 2000$ is pricey though.
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You know this is a battery powered Trijicon right? :P
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Disclaimer: I have not seen this product in person.

Everyone knows Trijicon had to come out with something new thatwould compete with the higher end scopes like Vortex HD 1-6x, Schmidt & Bender, NightForce, etc. It's been a long time coming and quite frankly, they are way late to the game. However, I'd rather they put thought and craft into their final product and have it come out late than throw something out there just to have a competing product.

All I can say at this point is that 1) If it's anything like the LED 4x ACOG, illumination will NOT be a problem.....that thing hurt my eyes, it was so bright. 2) Glass clarity, if on par with ACOGs, might not be enough to put it a notch above the rest. ACOG's, while great clarity, I wouldnt say are a step above other top notch scopes.....they are on par with them (and i've heard that Elcan has even better glass), 3) It looks like one really heavy beast. With built in mount, rugged design, AA battery....it's not going to be a lightweight.

I have to wonder at this point what niche they were trying to fill for the military? I mean, a 1-6x is great, but honestly, what rifle are they going to put this on? Are they really going to field these on top of every M4/M16? I highly doubt it. For double the cost and additional weight, I dont believe it is going to provide double the benefit for your average foot soldier. And for a sniper setup? No, they will go for more magnification than 6x. Maybe a DMR setup? I also question the use of AA batteries vs the standard military CR123A.....that seems to be the more widely used battery due to surefire lights, lasers, PEQ-15's and such. For these reasons, I kind of wonder if the target market is even military at all?

Just my thoughts on this scope.....I'm sure I'd love it anyways
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You know this is a battery powered Trijicon right? :P
Did not realize... I can see that AA is more commonly available (a plus) ..but they don't last that long (a minus)..but they are cheaper than cr123's (a plus). Personally I love ACOG's because they don't have batteries, and would never buy a Elcan because they do... not so much because of the battery itself but the circuitry that can and will go bad over time. Personally I'd pass on this just like I pass on Elcan's... but that's just me.
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1) if street is around $1800, it's not far from a Vortex HD 1-6 plus a quality mount

2) it appears to save some weight, it's 2 oz lighter than a vortex 1-6 without mount, then add the weight of mounts/rings

I'd rather have a 1-6 Accupoint for around $1k if I can get my way, but I'll definitely consider a ACOG
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Spec sheet says 23.2 oz less mounting base vs 25.2 oz for a vortex. 1-6 less mount
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I would like to see the Chevron instead
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I would like to see the ACSS reticle in it
I love my 6x the scope is ok but the reticle is amazing
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lol retail price on Trijicon site is now $2800 ... used to be around $2200 at the time people were predicting $1800 street value. looks like street value is going to be around $2400 now
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Street availability early May, per Tom Munson from SHOT. Amazon has this priced at $2800.
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I Like it because it'sTrijicon, but I think I'd go Mark6 over this, and for a lot less money, too.
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Street availability early May, per Tom Munson from SHOT. Amazon has this priced at $2800.
At $2,800 its either a mall ninja optic or military optic.

I can swallow $1,800 but not $2,800.
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Having owned an ACOG, I have little doubt that Trijicon will deliver with the VCOG. I'm just not sure if I can, or want to, justify the expected $2400-2800 price tag for an optic.
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I Like it because it'sTrijicon, but I think I'd go Mark6 over this, and for a lot less money, too.
I'm with you on choosing a Leupold Mark6 1-6x over the VCOG (until I have the chance to handle both). Other than slightly longer battery life, I don't see what the VCOG offers that is better than the Mark6.
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