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Old 02-19-2013, 11:28 AM
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Default which should i buy GSG STG-44 .22 or a HK mp5 .22

I am not sure which to get a GSG STG 44 or a HK MP5 in .22. I am looking to buy one or the other of these .22s. I am looking for help and opinions of which one is better.


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Thats a tuffy, My kids and I were checking out the mp5 at Big 5 we waited to be helped after a while just standing there we walked out. They looked pretty cool with a fake can . My kids loved it ,I would have of purchased it if they showed it to us. I ended going to Bass Pro and got lucky and picked up a 10/22.
The stg looks pretty cool to . With the way the market is get the one you can find in stock.
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You can read up on my HK MP5 journal.
I love mine and would highly recommend it.
So that would be my choice Plus I like the modern tacticool look.
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I like my Stg-44. It's heavy, and about the size of an AR with an 20" barrel. I really like the sights on it. Shoots fine. GSG recommends High velocity ammo be shot through it. Might be hard to find right now and expensive. Mags can be hard to find also.
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I went with the MP5 too. I've always liked the MP5s and HK in general, so that was the choice for me. It's been a lot of fun to shoot and it's been flawless so far. I never owned a rimfire before, but I'm at 1000 rounds of bulk ammo without any issues and I don't think that's normal for most 22s.
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I went with the GSG STG 44. Very nice. Fun to shoot.
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I have the GSG MP5 and would choose the GSG STG 44 today.

There's nothing wrong with my MP5, it's just that there are a lot of them out there. The STG 44 is far more rare and distinctive looking. It will get far more attention at the range for sure.

But the STG is a LOT heavier than the MP5 if that matters to you.

Buy both!!!
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I got to shoot a HK MP5 .22 last week. I was very impressed both by it's accuracy and reliability.
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well i can get the STG 44 for $610 and its in stock......the mp5 would be $530 and would be back ordered. I have read in reviews that the mp5 stock is wiggly when you are trying to shoot thus loose accuracy.
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STG44 hands down. Feels better and those MP5 22lr are a dime a dozen. There are all over the place, everyone has one. The STG is a lot more expensive and aftermarket parts for it are harder, but for a fun gun which a .22LR replica rifle is like the STG wins hands down IMO. Not all the 22LR MP5 clones are the same either, some are better made than others.
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I ended up buying the STG 44...got one for $566 with shipping.... put it in layaway.....will let you know how i like it
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Yeah the Stg44 is the only assualt weapon as defined by df"s new proposed gun laws left in my lgs turners reseda.
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I just put the $$ down on an STG today. Can't wait for it to be March 9.
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got my STG 44 out to the range.....awesome......can't wait till it breaks in a little more.....put a red dot on it and what fun it is
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Mine has digested at least 500rds and it is right on the mark,looks cooler
then SIHT,spent more time showing it then shooting it.Tried many types of
HV ammo with no problems but CCI STINGERS caused some failures but
that is no biggy with Stingers selling for about $.30 a rd! Pete




I have an xtra 10 rd mag,for $65 shipped(I paid too much)
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How much and where did you get/order your stg's from
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How much and where did you get/order your stg's from
I bought mine at Turners in Oxnard Jan 10 for a total OTD of $633. I went
to the store to PUT A DEPOSIT on one and there was one in the RACK!!
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I own the Mp5 and it has never failed me. It is really fun to shoot and everyone that sees it thinks it's cool. That being said i was at Tracy rifle and pistol this past weekend and was buying something else and asked to see the stg44. i immediately fell in love with it. i loved the way it felt. It was a very well built piece. So i bought it also.
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Picking up the stg on wed. I am not a huge .22 fan but was Considering the mp5. When they announced the sturmgewehr I had to have one. When I did the ppt everyone in the store had to come check it out. Its heavy but being used to a Garand and fal it is not really an issue. can't wait to get it up to the pistol gallery and plink.
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So is the STG made of stamped -folded sheet metal? Is that a real wood stock?
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So is the STG made of stamped -folded sheet metal? Is that a real wood stock?
All wood andmetal(not sheet metal) except the mag. Pete
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i own both and both are great guns
MP5 has more after market parts and is lighter. quite accurate and very fun to shoot. the bolt can be adjusted to shoot reg velocity ammo.
STG44 is 9+ pds with great sights. Getting 10 rd mags was the hardest part. as an added bonus, i love the wood crate it comes in.
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You can try http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/82581 $542.00 with cash
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All wood andmetal(not sheet metal) except the mag. Pete
The body is sheet metal.

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i own both and both are great guns
MP5 has more after market parts and is lighter. quite accurate and very fun to shoot. the bolt can be adjusted to shoot reg velocity ammo.
STG44 is 9+ pds with great sights. Getting 10 rd mags was the hardest part. as an added bonus, i love the wood crate it comes in.
I have enough spare magazines. I'd let one go for $50, locally.
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The body is sheet metal.

locally.
The body of originals was sheet metal,the 22 looks like a casting to me.

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Sheet metal. I have one.
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i own both and both are great guns
MP5 has more after market parts and is lighter. quite accurate and very fun to shoot. the bolt can be adjusted to shoot reg velocity ammo.
STG44 is 9+ pds with great sights. Getting 10 rd mags was the hardest part. as an added bonus, i love the wood crate it comes in.
Riflegear carries 10 rd STG44 magazines and they're in stock. $40

http://www.riflegear.com/p-1857-ati-...-magazine.aspx
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10rd mags for the STG 44 were not available until a few months ago. I had to wait 5 month before the finally hit the market. Now easy to find.
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well i can get the STG 44 for $610 and its in stock......the mp5 would be $530 and would be back ordered. I have read in reviews that the mp5 stock is wiggly when you are trying to shoot thus loose accuracy.
If your not shooting properly it is. As long as you are smart enough to get that stock in your shoulder pocket its solid all day, as well as they sell the A5 fixed stock for it seperately. As well as it says you need high velocity, well wouldnt you know it; their is a spring tensioning nut on it to help with that. I got risky one day and shot sub sonic thru it and it cycled with no issues!
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Tracer666, there has also been considerable discussion on the 'Net about the STG wood stock coming loose. Not falling out loose. Just loose.
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here are pics of my stg 44 with a red dot on top
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Saw one at the Bay Area Gun Vault and did an impulse buy.

There were some quality control issues from the factory, but Gary fixed them in a few minutes after I pointed them out. (He actually got a missing part from his display model and made my rifle whole. Thanks Gary.)



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Saw one at the Bay Area Gun Vault and did an impulse buy.

There were some quality control issues from the factory, but Gary fixed them in a few minutes after I pointed them out. (He actually got a missing part from his display model and made my rifle whole. Thanks Gary.)



Now I will be ready for my Asian Fallschirmjaeger impersonation.
Hey Roger what kind of issues where you talking about? What was the missing part and what did he charge you for the rifle. Thanks.
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The rear sight detent lock washer whatever was missing. So the rear sight was not solidly locked in place. He took the tiny washer off of his display model and installed it on mine. The pin that holds the stock and the receiver together - the detent spring was something like a quarter to a half inch short from the end of the pin, so that it would not spring out and lock the two pieces together. He used a punch to make it go to the end. (I had tried to pull it with my fingers but could not make it budge much.)

Think the price was like $650 before taxes/fees. Haven't seen them around in the few gun stores I have visited in the last year.
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Sheet metal. I have one.
Check again. It's cast alloy.
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Sure is a nice looking rifle.
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I went with the HK since i want repair / replacement parts. The limited supply of those with the STG 44 tells me it will be nearly impossible to repair. This is a cloned firearm using modern manufacturing, which means its subject to easy break downs.

There are already dozens of shops offering stuff for the Walther HK design.
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I went with the HK since i want repair / replacement parts. The limited supply of those with the STG 44 tells me it will be nearly impossible to repair. This is a cloned firearm using modern manufacturing, which means its subject to easy break downs.
Where is this misinformation coming from? ATI has spare parts for the STG,
mine has digested over a 1000 rds of various 22 without any breakdowns
and I don't really anticipate any! I think the HK is also produced
using "modern manufacturing".
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Where is this misinformation coming from? ATI has spare parts for the STG,
mine has digested over a 1000 rds of various 22 without any breakdowns
and I don't really anticipate any! I think the HK is also produced
using "modern manufacturing".
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Its not misinformation, its based on my experience. Its a rare gun to see. That translates to few sales, which translates to small profit for ATI.

Are you sure ATI will be around for 100 years? Is the STG is so popular there will be 100s of retailers selling dozens of after market parts for it? Is it selling so good that ATI will never stop producing it or parts for it?

No, No and No.

Walther /Umarex & HK will be around forever and so will the hundreds if not thousands of retail stores selling parts for it. Even though HK has nothing to do with it, their aftermarket parts fit it since its nearly identical to the 9mm.

Its greatest asset is what everyone is complaining about, its a very common gun to see at the range. That translates to a wide consumer support.

Once ATI stops making parts, the owners of those mil-surp clones are screwed. Ask a M17S owner how easy it is to get repair parts.
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I love my STG. ATI usually has the 10rd spare mags in stock while the 24rd ones are usually sold out. I saw a bunch of the 10rd mags being resold on ebay for inflated prices. I would recommend buying up some spare mags simply because they are most likely going to wear out faster than any other part of the gun.

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