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Old 04-18-2013, 10:51 AM
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Default Glocks not legal for sale in Ca

Lately I've been reminded by my Rep at a well known distributor that all Glocks are no longer legal for resale in California unless for LEO. On the last few Glocks I was able to get my hands on a label was attached saying quote: "Notice: This handgun is not legal for resale in California, excepting sales to law enforcement officers and agencies in full compliance with state law." Even though the Austrian made Glocks are still on the roster, and the roster says that any USA made Glock is not approved, can I still sell the Austrian made to the general public? In one hand they are not approved, in the other they are. What gives?

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Old 04-18-2013, 12:40 PM
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Lately I've been reminded by my Rep at a well known distributor that all Glocks are no longer legal for resale in California unless for LEO. On the last few Glocks I was able to get my hands on a label was attached saying quote: "Notice: This handgun is not legal for resale in California, excepting sales to law enforcement officers and agencies in full compliance with state law." Even though the Austrian made Glocks are still on the roster, and the roster says that any US made Glock is approved, can I still sell them to the general public? In one hand they are not approved, in the other they are. What gives?
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The actual roster is the decision maker...

From the roster:
http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns_resp.asp

Showing all records matching Glock
The matching records list is sorted by Model
This list is valid for Thursday, April 18, 2013

No Generation 4 Glock handguns have been approved as of: Thursday, April 18, 2013
No Glock handguns made in the USA have been approved as of: Thursday, April 18, 2013

Model Gun Type Barrel Length Caliber Exp Date
17 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" 9mm 12/31/2013
17 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" 9mm 11/1/2013
17C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" 9mm 1/9/2014
17RTF2 (Black) / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" 9mm 7/2/2013
19 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" 9mm 12/31/2013
19 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" 9mm 11/16/2013
19C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4" 9mm 6/4/2014
20 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.60" 10mm 12/31/2013
20 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.60" 10mm 12/22/2013
20C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.6" 10mm 1/9/2014
20SF (Black) / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.60" 10mm 12/30/2013
21 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.6" .45 ACP 12/31/2013
21 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.6" .45 ACP 12/22/2013
21C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.6" .45 ACP 2/1/2014
21SF-STD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.6" .45 ACP 6/14/2014
22 - FBI 100 Yr. Commemorative (Blk) / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .40 S&W 1/29/2014
22 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .40 S&W 12/31/2013
22 C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.5" .40 S&W 2/13/2014
22 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .40 S&W 11/16/2013
22RTF2 (Black) / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .40 S&W 12/30/2013
23 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .40 S&W 12/31/2013
23 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .40 S&W 4/25/2014
23C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.9" .40 S&W 3/6/2014
26 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" 9mm 12/31/2013
26 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" 9mm 12/22/2013
27 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .40 S&W 12/31/2013
27 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .40 S&W 11/1/2013
29 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" 10mm 4/4/2014
29 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" 10mm 11/1/2013
29SF (Black) / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" 10mm 12/30/2013
30 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 12/31/2013
30 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 11/1/2013
30SF / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 4/21/2014
31 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .357 SIG 12/31/2013
31 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .357 SIG 4/25/2014
31C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .357 SIG 4/17/2014
32 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .357 SIG 12/31/2013
32 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .357 SIG 11/1/2013
32C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .357 SIG 4/17/2014
33 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .357 SIG 12/31/2013
33 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .357 SIG 11/16/2013
34 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.32" 9mm 2/1/2014
34 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.32" 9mm 2/14/2014
35 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.32" .40 S&W 12/31/2013
35 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.32" .40 S&W 11/16/2013
36 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 12/31/2013
36 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 11/1/2013
38 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .45 GAP 7/13/2013
38 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4" .45 GAP 1/17/2014
39 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .45 GAP 7/13/2013
39 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.3" .45 GAP 2/27/2014
G-37 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.5" .45 GAP 1/27/2014
G-37 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.5" .45 GAP 11/1/2013

No Generation 4 Glock handguns have been approved as of: Thursday, April 18, 2013

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Old 04-18-2013, 2:05 PM
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It would seem that Austrian glocks are OK. USA made glocks aren't. But it appears that the no USA glock is a administrative DOJ ruling. The glock guns on the roster are not marked USA/AUSTRIA on the info by the gun. You could argue that since the on roster glocks do not specify place of manufacture,all glocks are good to go. It has not be made clear, but my understanding is that DOJ considers 4th generation glocks to be a new untested version,so they are not on roster. I have also been told,that DOJ is taking the position that USA made glocks,are new versions that have to be certified before they get rostered.
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Old 04-18-2013, 6:17 PM
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i smell more lawsuits coming for the wicked witch of the doj
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Old 04-18-2013, 8:38 PM
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Soooo, quick question for those more studied than I: A gen 3 Austrian Glock 27... is that legal for PPT in California?
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Yeah can I do a PPT fot a USA mafe Glock?
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Old 04-18-2013, 8:58 PM
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Yeah can I do a PPT fot a USA mafe Glock?
Yes....
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Old 04-18-2013, 9:07 PM
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Soooo, quick question for those more studied than I: A gen 3 Austrian Glock 27... is that legal for PPT in California?
Saw one today at Turner's for sale.
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Yeah can I do a PPT fot a USA mafe Glock?
Ppt are roster exempt
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Old 04-18-2013, 9:46 PM
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And gen 3s from Austria are fine. All my local gun shops have been selling the gen 3s. They just don't stay on the shelf for very long.
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Old 04-19-2013, 8:29 AM
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Gen 3s with the standard Glock serial numbers are ok. ABC123. If they have an additional number or letter (I forget), then they are the USA made ones and you are not supposed to sell them.
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Gen 3s with the standard Glock serial numbers are ok. ABC123. If they have an additional number or letter (I forget), then they are the USA made ones and you are not supposed to sell them.
USA production are "ABCD123"

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Old 04-19-2013, 4:13 PM
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I have a few for sale. Did get a 22 which has "Not for sale in California" plastered all over it but its an Austrian so game on.
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Old 04-24-2013, 3:53 PM
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Would that be a green sticker on the box? If so they put them on most Glocks
because the people applying them are not sure, or don't know.
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Old 04-25-2013, 4:28 PM
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Glock does not put those on. The green ones are a distributor, RSR Group

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Blue labels are for LEO.
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RSR likes to put those neon green stickers on the boxes even on some handguns that are on the roster or can be transferred via SSE. I don't think it's their responsibility to put those stickers on the boxes but it's probably a CYA thing. I just received a Glock 29SF Gen3 made in Austria that has the "NO CA" sticker but the handgun is on the Roster.
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Old 04-28-2013, 7:06 AM
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RSR likes to put those neon green stickers on the boxes even on some handguns that are on the roster or can be transferred via SSE. I don't think it's their responsibility to put those stickers on the boxes but it's probably a CYA thing. I just received a Glock 29SF Gen3 made in Austria that has the "NO CA" sticker but the handgun is on the Roster.
I love those stickers. I put them on guns in the display that I can single shot, but that aren't currently in single shot form as the barrels are being used.
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Old 04-28-2013, 7:48 AM
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Glock does not put those on. The green ones are a distributor, RSR Group

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I knew that. Just did not want to mention the distributor. I asked the question to my sale rep and that was his answer
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:18 AM
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I love those stickers. I put them on guns in the display that I can single shot, but that aren't currently in single shot form as the barrels are being used.
Thats a great idea.... note to sent to rep for some of those!
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Very sneaky, didn't we just approve a UN small arms treaty? Doesn't it have to do with importation of small arms?
So, if you can no longer import, and domestic production is not state approved, Glocks may become unavailable in CA.
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Yeah didn't want to mention dist name. So everything is kosher, just thought that maybe RSR knew something that we didn't.
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