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Old 04-24-2013, 10:05 AM
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What if a vendor ships something to our shop without obtaining a shipment approval letter?

Last edited by WGM-TAC; 04-24-2013 at 10:07 AM.. Reason: Found the answer a few posts down. Sorry, got a bit streesed out.
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Old 04-24-2013, 2:25 PM
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What if a vendor ships something to our shop without obtaining a shipment approval letter?
Call them and ask for one.
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Old 05-03-2013, 7:24 AM
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I also email them to make a paper trail in case I get inspected before it comes.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:00 AM
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If you don't have the CFLC letter, then you can ask for it and if you don't get it, then you need to ship it back. I have wondered if it would be acceptable to just turn it over to the police so that you don't have to pay for shipping.
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Old 05-15-2013, 7:03 PM
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If you don't have the CFLC letter, then you can ask for it and if you don't get it, then you need to ship it back. I have wondered if it would be acceptable to just turn it over to the police so that you don't have to pay for shipping.
I tell people (customers) that ^^ up front before I send my FFL to the seller.
I also make it painfully clear that I will not pay for shipping back to the seller. If someone (other than me) does not pay for return shipping within 24 hours, then I also make it painfully clear that I WILL surrender the firearm to the local police department.

May seem a bit harsh to some, but I don;t want to amass too many negative points they can call me on during an inspection, so I make sure both (the seller) and buyer know that the authorization letter is mandatory.

Of course I have not had to do that yet, but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure right?
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Happened to me recently on a GunBroker.com sale. The sender was totally unresponsive to emails and his voice mailbox was full. Tried for a week. Sent it back at a cost to the buyer. A week later it showed back-up with the CFLC letter!! Why didn't the dolt just get that to me in the first place?
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Old 05-16-2013, 7:39 AM
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People are lazy. Perhaps he thought that he could get away with it, but when the firearm arrived back, then he had to do something if he wanted the money.
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Yep, my thoughts also
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Is there a way to pull up the number again if is supposedly "lost". Had that happen recently.
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Is there a way to pull up the number again if is supposedly "lost". Had that happen recently.
Yes there is a review section on the senders end. I use it all the time to look up CFLCs for new shipments.
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It is also possible, but a pain, to call the CA DOJ and ask them to look up any shipments to you (FFLs should be able to do that on their own).
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:26 AM
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That's what I thought on the senders end only an as Kemasa said both parties should be able to research that on their own. Make life way easier.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:36 AM
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I'm amazed at how simply lazy people can be. It only takes a few seconds to generate a letter. I've seen people charge people to do this. Crazy.
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Surplus ammo charges extra to ship to ca.


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