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Old 03-30-2012, 8:45 PM
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I meant to bump this last night but I forgot.

Anyway, I had a little one-on-one time with him after most people left and basically asked those questions.

He said he feels there are better alternatives to "strapping a pistol to you". I asked him for an example and he said pepper spray and "a taser, you can get one of those, right?" He also said he was the one who reviews them and they've only "issued 2 since the 70's". He also gave some examples of the SO that has issued, and he was talking about the single female realtor in remote areas, etc. Even that was on the line of making it and said shouldn't have been issued. I told him those people have $$$. He shrugged it off. I also told him about my job and how I go to remote locations with possible illegal growing operations and he asked me if I lived in the city, I told him yes and I should take it up with my employer. Employer is too risk averse to do anything but I wouldn't be able to get the LTC because "general fear of crime" isn't "good cause".

Didn't get a chance to ask him much more because there were other people.
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Poor sonoma county getting no love
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Damn, saw this bumped and got excited for a second.
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Old 06-23-2012, 8:16 PM
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I'm urging everybody to take the Community Police Survey here: http://ci.santa-rosa.ca.us/departmen...s/default.aspx

Make sure your LTC concerns are heard by putting them in the appropriate boxes. It probably won't do anything, but it's worth taking the 5 (or less) minutes and trying.
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Any progress here? It has been far too long since there's been any posts or updates.
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Another false alarm thread bump! And I was hoping for something exciting....
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Here's some Sonoma County GC statements. http://calgunsfoundation.org/downloa...s/SonomaGC.pdf
http://www.calccw.com/Forums/new-mem...ma-county.html
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these are all very old, is there anything new in the works...
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I can assure you that since the new sheriff took over that there's been more ccw's issued. Seen several from private business owners which is encouraging.
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They have been issued to business owners? I would qualify for that. I am always paranoid going to the bank, as I am often paid in cash. And a certain surrounding business attracts a less than stellar customer base that I do not trust.

A family member of mine applied many times here with no luck. Work forced relocation up north, and apparently it was a breeze after that.
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I can assure you that since the new sheriff took over that there's been more ccw's issued. Seen several from private business owners which is encouraging.
Oh yeah that is encouraging. So I have to start a business for my life to be worth protecting
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I own a gun store and was told I shouldn't even bother trying here in Sonoma County...where is the info that 'more ccw's' have been issued?
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So, why don't we all just apply?

Assuming our reasons are legit, zero criminal background, upstanding citizen. Whats the harm?
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So, why don't we all just apply?

Assuming our reasons are legit, zero criminal background, upstanding citizen. Whats the harm?
I wish we could all apply.. I would apply in a heart beat...
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What exactly is the reason we can't?

My father and I both want to apply, as CA business owners.
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So, why don't we all just apply?

Assuming our reasons are legit, zero criminal background, upstanding citizen. Whats the harm?
The harm is getting a possible denial.

Then when a good sheriff comes around, a past denial is a reason to deny again.
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The harm is getting a possible denial.

Then when a good sheriff comes around, a past denial is a reason to deny again.
It should not affect it at all.

The main deterrent for me is cost.

Fees are non refundable. They won't take the application till I take the training course(which I would anyways), but thats almost 200 in fees that I'll never get back if they deny it.
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It should not affect it at all.

The main deterrent for me is cost.

Fees are non refundable. They won't take the application till I take the training course(which I would anyways), but thats almost 200 in fees that I'll never get back if they deny it.
But with that class, you should be able to get AZ/NV/UT permits as well...
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Old 04-08-2013, 9:46 PM
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Everybody, register for this event and attend!

http://www.eventbrite.com/event/5728034706

Gene Hoffman and Sheriff Steve Freitas are going to be there. We can grill him on his lack of CCW issuance!
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But with that class, you should be able to get AZ/NV/UT permits as well...
The class you would take to apply for AZ/UT is only for applying to those states as non-residents (and costs $150.00). The one for California is the one taught by Ray Higbee and is $50.00 I think.

I took the AZ/UT non-resident course (Nevada isn't included) and I'm just waiting on the issuance.

Whether or not one has the possibility of successfully applying for a permit in Sonoma County, I would highly recommend the 16 hour course given at the Ukiah Gun Club. Lots of excellent techniques and awareness of self-defense laws are taught as well as good practical shooting exercises, good for anyone who takes armed self defense seriously.

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Everybody, register for this event and attend!

http://www.eventbrite.com/event/5728034706

Gene Hoffman and Sheriff Steve Freitas are going to be there. We can grill him on his lack of CCW issuance!
Thanks, I just registered to go
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Everybody, register for this event and attend!

http://www.eventbrite.com/event/5728034706

Gene Hoffman and Sheriff Steve Freitas are going to be there. We can grill him on his lack of CCW issuance!
Found this thread today and realized this event was just last night! How did it go?
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Any updates for Sonoma County issuance? Could 2013 be the year we finally get some ccw love? Want to apply but is it even worth the time & money?
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If you went to the event, the answer was a flat out *no* for ordinary citizens who aren't into realty.
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I just went to the Sonoma Co Sheriffs Office website (http://www.sonomasheriff.org/) and see on its homepage, in big, bright red letters CCW

They're obviously not hiding the availability of CCWs. Have they cleaned up their act re. illegal requirements?

On http://www.sonomasheriff.org/ccw.php they still require "three letters of character reference and your physician's attestation (statement) of suitability" and later that after passing the background check, "we will contact you in writing and provide additional information on what is required next."

Are they now less constipated as to what satisfies Good Cause?
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Could this be???
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Im curious why we have to submit a "physician's attestation (statement) of suitability"

Is this some kind of new requirement?
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You'll be denied. YOU, of all people, cant be trusted with a gun.

Honestly, if its $20, and all of us 707'ers (with squeaky clean records, and legit reasons) apply, all are told no, and the no reason is a joke......demand justice.
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You'll be denied. YOU, of all people, cant be trusted with a gun.

Honestly, if its $20, and all of us 707'ers (with squeaky clean records, and legit reasons) apply, all are told no, and the no reason is a joke......demand justice.
At this point, lawsuit.
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You'll be denied. YOU, of all people, cant be trusted with a gun.

Honestly, if its $20, and all of us 707'ers (with squeaky clean records, and legit reasons) apply, all are told no, and the no reason is a joke......demand justice.
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You'll be denied. YOU, of all people, cant be trusted with a gun.

Honestly, if its $20, and all of us 707'ers (with squeaky clean records, and legit reasons) apply, all are told no, and the no reason is a joke......demand justice.
We already are. No need for folks w/o substantial "Good Cause" to waste their time, money, and effort in futile endeavors.

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At this point, lawsuit.
We already have a number of federal lawsuits going.

Right now, we're awaiting a decision by the 9th Circuit re. CCWs in CA in the Richards-Peruta cases. While we most likely will get a decision before next Nov., many think it could come within the next few months.

Gene Hoffman has said Gura will ask for cert. (asking SCOTUS to take), in the Drake case this week. If they do, they should make a national decision re. Carry before 2015 July 01.

There are other Carry cases in the pipeline as well: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=812950
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I had planned on applying in another county, but if it helps the cause, I'll gladly apply here.

I'll write my app up and apply within the month.

Anyone else?
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Expecting to relocate to Napa/Sonoma area. Could reside in either county. Seeking advise on CCW application prospects and preferred location to be able to apply/receive issuance. No barring issues whatsoever.

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I hear napa is friendlier.

Check the '707' thread for other related input.
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Expecting to relocate to Napa/Sonoma area. Could reside in either county. Seeking advise on CCW application prospects and preferred location to be able to apply/receive issuance. No barring issues whatsoever.

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If you really want one, best to expand where you're willing to live and be willing to commute a longer distance.

Solano Co. and Mendocino Co. liberally issue CCWs. I don't know about Lake Co.

Marin is more constipated than either Sonoma or Napa.

We've sued Yolo Co in federal court, and we should be getting a decision by the 9th Circuit CA some time before next Nov. That's the Richards case. If we win it or lose it, the odds are it will be appealed to SCOTUS.

If we win Richards at the 9th, many counties might liberalize issuance on the assumption SCOTUS will agree with the 9th. So you might consider renting in Solano for a year w/a longer commute (but when you apply for a CCW tell them you plan to stay there indefinitely), and then see how Sonoma and Napa react to the Richards decision.

I keep track of the Concealed Carry cases at: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=812950 and update the OP as things happen.
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Given this little Gem, maybe time to move forward.

Anyone have an idea what "physician's attestation (statement) of suitability" is?

There are no samples anywhere on the SoCo Sheriff website. I have a call in to department, but the appropriate staff person is out until Monday.
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