Merced *** TIME TO APPLY!!! ***

[Mrwokn]

Haha. I actually used to work with her.

[Ryan_D]

In that case I'm pretty sure you win. Unless you didn't work well together. LOL

[keneva]

waiting?

[Mrwokn]

Im still waiting. Its been 25 days and the lady that I submitted my app said it would be about 3 months

[rivraton]

Originally Posted by Mrwokn

Im still waiting. Its been 25 days and the lady that I submitted my app said it would be about 3 months

I could send you a copy of the denial letter that you will likely get, I'll erase my name and you can put yours in.

[Mrwokn]

Ha! Im expecting to be denied as well. Clean record, solid good cause, and good moral character will result in denial I'm sure. Haha don't bother wasting the stamp to send it. Does it say why you were denied. Josette told me you could come in and talk to some officer about being denied and if possible reapply in 6months to a yr

[Mrwokn]

When did you apply?

[jgraham7897]

That is why I haven't applied. I don't know the sheriff personally and am not a significant contributor to his campaign so I would expect to get denied as well.

[Mrwokn]

Ya I know what you mean. If only I lived one county south it would be no problem. A coworker of mine wrote a simple one line good cause and obtained hers. Madera is a much easier county to obtain ltc.

[jgraham7897]

I hear Mariposa is pretty much shall issue if you have a decent good cause.

[rivraton]

Originally Posted by Mrwokn

Does it say why you were denied.

"privilege, not a right" "you have other options available to you" blah, blah...

[Mrwokn]

That's bogus. I bet that's the standard letter he just pulls from his cabinet and signs. There is likely no acceptance letter in that cabinet.

[Groundshakerxl]

Ya I applied last August and was denied. My brother and I both got the exact same letter.

[Groundshakerxl]

I heard that you could apply with next closest city but being in Delhi, that doesn't leave many options. Anyone else heard this

[keneva]

Talking to one of our local newspaper reporters the other day and he was under the impression that the lawsuit against Pazin has been settled? He didn't give me any details or where his info came from but? Anybody heard anything on this?

[jgraham7897]

Originally Posted by keneva

Talking to one of our local newspaper reporters the other day and he was under the impression that the lawsuit against Pazin has been settled? He didn't give me any details or where his info came from but? Anybody heard anything on this?

As far as I know it is not settled yet. Not sure what is going on exactly right now but Brandon said something on FB a week or so ago that there would hopefully be updates soon.

[Ryan_D]

It's been nearly 2 months since I submitted mine. Haven't heard anything back yet from S.O. about it.

[jgraham7897]

Originally Posted by Ryan_D

It's been nearly 2 months since I submitted mine. Haven't heard anything back yet from S.O. about it.

I believe a copy of what you will get in the mail was posted on the previous page.

[Ryan_D]

Originally Posted by jgraham7897

I believe a copy of what you will get in the mail was posted on the previous page.

I believe you're probably right, though there is 1% of me hoping to be the exception rather than the rule...

[jgraham7897]

Originally Posted by Ryan_D

I believe you're probably right, though there is 1% of me hoping to be the exception rather than the rule...

LOL...You are more optimistic than I am!

[Ryan_D]

More like hoping for a miracle.

[daNkiest]

Inquiring for my friend. He is a business owner in merced and lives in merced. He wants to acquire a conceal carry permit. What are his chances? He is willing to make contributions. Thanks in advanced.

[Ryan_D]

I would say his chances are probably slim to none depending upon his occupation. I applied in February and have still not heard back whether I'm approved or denied, but they did say it would probably be 3 months before I heard anything at least. Contributions may help, but with the lawsuit in limbo right now ( anyone? LOL) it might be better to try and simply get some face time in as far as fund-raisers, joining or donation to search and rescue, asking for a tour, etc. prior to breaking out the checkbook in a significant way.

[Ryan_D]

Got my letter back today: Denied.

[jgraham7897]

No surprise there Ryan.

[Ryan_D]

Here's the letter they sent me:

[rivraton]

Yep, it looks like they just pull that out of the drawer, add the date and your name & address and mail it out, exactly, word for word, the letter I got last year.

[Ryan_D]

Seems like it

[Mrwokn]

Yup, I was denied too with same letter. A coworker if mine with same occupation & similar good cause received hers although she lives in chowchilla.

[rivraton]

Originally Posted by Mrwokn

Yup, I was denied too with same letter. A coworker if mine with same occupation & similar good cause received hers although she lives in chowchilla.

Which is why the "May Issue" scheme is so wrong, each jurisdiction gets to set it's own criteria, that, on it's face it violates the 14th Amendment.

[BigRig81]

so with the win in Michelle Rossow, et al. v. County of Merced and Merced Sheriff Mark Pazin, what does that accomplish? The unlawful extra requirements/fees? None of the articles have specifics.

[hoffmang]

Originally Posted by BigRig81

so with the win in Michelle Rossow, et al. v. County of Merced and Merced Sheriff Mark Pazin, what does that accomplish? The unlawful extra requirements/fees? None of the articles have specifics.

The policy now conforms very closely to state law. This doesn't fix "may issue" there, but it does mean that once may issue is dealt with in much higher courts, the rest of the policy is lawful.

-Gene

[BigRig81]

I see, thanks for the reply Gene. Looking forward to more good news.

[bollero]

welcome back Gene.....

[hoffmang]

Originally Posted by bollero

welcome back Gene.....

Been a bit busy

-Gene

[Ryan_D]

So, had a court-hearing this morning in family law. One of the topics of contention happened to be my former father-in-law's drug use. He happened to be in the court room today, and got very disturbed by the topic. After court was over, I was talking to my attorney outside, and he walked past us. He looked back a couple times, and when my attorney walked off, I started toward the crosswalk to cross the street. He stopped in the middle of the crosswalk, and told me "Don't you ever call me a drugg addict again. I'll f***ing kill you. You better watch your f***ing back, mother-f***er, because I'm going to kick you ***!" I stopped, asked him if there was a problem, did I need to get a deputy. He continued to curse at me, so I went to get a deputy. As the deputy walked me to the car I told him what happened, but the guy was nowhere to be seen, so nothing could be done.

I said all that to ask this: On May 10, I got my denial letter from Merced County SO for my CCW app. Do you think they will reconsider once a report is generated (waiting on Merced P.D. to take the report now) or will I have to re-apply and wait another 3 months?

[canadagoose]

PENAL CODE - PEN
PART 6. CONTROL OF DEADLY WEAPONS [16000. - 34370.] ( Part 6 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )
TITLE 4. FIREARMS [23500. - 34370.] ( Title 4 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )
DIVISION 5. CARRYING FIREARMS [25300. - 26405.] ( Division 5 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )
CHAPTER 2. Carrying a Concealed Firearm [25400. - 25700.] ( Chapter 2 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )

ARTICLE 4. Other Exemptions [25600. - 25655.] ( Article 4 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )
25600. (a) A violation of Section 25400 is justifiable when a person who possesses a firearm reasonably believes that person is in grave danger because of circumstances forming the basis of a current restraining order issued by a court against another person who has been found to pose a threat to the life or safety of the person who possesses the firearm. This section may not apply when the circumstances involve a mutual restraining order issued pursuant to Division 10 (commencing with Section 6200) of the Family Code absent a factual finding of a specific threat to the person’s life or safety. It is not the intent of the Legislature to limit, restrict, or narrow the application of current statutory or judicial authority to apply this or other justifications to a defendant charged with violating Section 25400 or committing another similar offense.
(b) Upon trial for violating Section 25400, the trier of fact shall determine whether the defendant was acting out of a reasonable belief that the defendant was in grave danger.

(Added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. Effective January 1, 2011. Operative January 1, 2012, by Sec. 10 of Ch. 711.)

[rivraton]

Absent a witness, you are probably S O L, but who knows...

[Ryan_D]

Filed a report with Merced P.D., requested they forward to the D.A.'s office. Also notified my attorney, maybe she can get a TRO filed, thus giving my request more validity and teeth.

[JohnC'sBobcat]

Depending on where the threat occurred, the S.O. may have gotten it on cameras--they're all over the new court building, including the exterior.

The crosswalk, you stand a chance of it having been recorded. If you notified a deputy right away, you MAY be able to have a copy of the relevant footage added to any report.
That would certainly help bolster your side in applying for a CCW or getting an RO from the Court.

Good luck.