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Old 12-28-2011, 10:26 AM
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They would have to provide the application. One can pull it up on the CGF LTC site as well, or by going to post 1 and clicking on the right link.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, as of 01/01, the Sheriff has to provide cause as to why he denied you, and that doesn't mean saying "You were denied because your good cause was no good".

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Old 12-28-2011, 11:09 AM
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Immediately above your post was the answer to the insurance question.

It's the 28th. You can easily wait until Tuesday/Wednesday, but I wouldn't have high expectations about getting the LTC.

Being denied by a no-issue county should have no bearing on applications in more sensible places.

Being denied for cause, however, rather than the whim of the issuing agency, might be a reason for concern.

I didn't mean to be redundant in my question, I did read the above post but was still unclear. So, after Jan 1, 2012 the psychological testing, insurance, etc. will no longer be required of an applicant? That would leave it with just having a clean background (which I do have) and an acceptable probable cause (which I can mirror some of the existing ones listed fairly well, but I don't have any personal ties with ACSO or anyone else of influence).

I'm just in a position where I carry daily at work and need to disarm to legally travel back and forth each day. Personal protection aside, this puts me in a position where I always have a firearm in my vehicle and I would just feel much better about it if I had the ability to keep it on my person rather than leaving it unattended in the car where it could fall into the wrong hands. There has been too much activity in my immediate area lately that it has me concerned. I would certainly apply for a permit in an area of more consistent issuance; but here in Alameda County I have been unable to undergo the added expenses involved with all the added requirements they have imposed.
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I didn't mean to be redundant in my question, I did read the above post but was still unclear. So, after Jan 1, 2012 the psychological testing, insurance, etc. will no longer be required of an applicant? That would leave it with just having a clean background (which I do have) and an acceptable probable cause (which I can mirror some of the existing ones listed fairly well, but I don't have any personal ties with ACSO or anyone else of influence).

I'm just in a position where I carry daily at work and need to disarm to legally travel back and forth each day. Personal protection aside, this puts me in a position where I always have a firearm in my vehicle and I would just feel much better about it if I had the ability to keep it on my person rather than leaving it unattended in the car where it could fall into the wrong hands. There has been too much activity in my immediate area lately that it has me concerned. I would certainly apply for a permit in an area of more consistent issuance; but here in Alameda County I have been unable to undergo the added expenses involved with all the added requirements they have imposed.
The psych testing was not addressed in any legislation that might change it; it's still something the issuing agency may require, but it is limited by statute to $150 cost (PC 26190), and they must require it of every applicant.

Sadly, there is no overt evidence that Alameda County is modifying its stance on issuing licenses; best guess is they will remain very difficult to get for some as yet unknown time into the future.
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Its been decided. I'm turning in my application 1-1-2012. (or the first day their open)
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Its been decided. I'm turning in my application 1-1-2012. (or the first day their open)
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after 4mins and 24 secs, Im still confused on why this reminds you of my comment. haha.
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after 4mins and 24 secs, Im still confused on why this reminds you of my comment. haha.
I'm confused why I keep feeling teased...

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So after seeing oaklander refused, is anyone getting LTC or are we still just jumping through hoops in alco
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I'm curious to know if anyone is in the application process, and if they are willing to share their experience with ACSO.
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So after seeing oaklander refused, is anyone getting LTC or are we still just jumping through hoops in alco
I think he applied to Oakland not ALCO, not that ALCO is handing them out easily.
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The psych testing was not addressed in any legislation that might change it; it's still something the issuing agency may require, but it is limited by statute to $150 cost (PC 26190), and they must require it of every applicant.

Sadly, there is no overt evidence that Alameda County is modifying its stance on issuing licenses; best guess is they will remain very difficult to get for some as yet unknown time into the future.

Does everyone go through the psyc test?
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I sent in my application 7+ months ago . I have had an interview, but nothing else. Anytime I ask for any update they just say it takes time.

Anyone familiar with what the definition of "it takes time" refers to in actual time with ALCO SO (i.e. anyone care to share how long it took for them or someone they know under Ahern).

Thanks.
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I spoke with Judy at ACSO two weeks ago. She said the process takes 6-12 months. I asked how SB610 plays into that (remember SB610 specifies 90 days), to which she acknowledged the new 2012 laws, but said it still takes 6-12 months for them. She mentioned the process is handled by employees whose primary role is other internal affair duties.

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I just had a customer get his ALCO CCW. He got it after 1.5 years.

His need statement involved him being the leader of his neighborhood watch.

1.5 years... dang!
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I just had a customer get his ALCO CCW. He got it after 1.5 years.

His need statement involved him being the leader of his neighborhood watch.

1.5 years... dang!
I'm thinking that due to Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch good cause will no longer be accepted.
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Is personal protection a valid GC for alameda county? I'm not even sure if its worth my time to attempt an LTC right now.
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Is personal protection a valid GC for alameda county? I'm not even sure if its worth my time to attempt an LTC right now.
Watch the first minute of the War of the Worlds youtube I posted above (post #205). Ahern will be as influenced by a "self-defense"/personal protection GC statement as the aliens in that movie clip were by quoting Scripture....

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and I wanted to apply for CCW.... here in Alameda County ("AlaMUDall " socialist republic.)

they gouge the law abiding citizens, but tons of Alameda residents and gangs and people who should NOT have even a straw to shoot spitballs are carrying ! ! ! I am upset.....
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and I wanted to apply for CCW.... here in Alameda County ("AlaMUDall " socialist republic.)

they gouge the law abiding citizens, but tons of Alameda residents and gangs and people who should NOT have even a straw to shoot spitballs are carrying ! ! ! I am upset.....
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So.....The general concensus is just to not bother to apply here? I've not wanted to apply due to the fact that I don't wish to have a formal denial on my record. Is this sane reasoning? I'm beginning to wonder about it myself. There is no good reason why I should not be allowed to carry a firearm when I choose to do so. Would applying and being denied based on Ahern's unwillingness to issue permits hurt my chances in the future?
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So.....The general concensus is just to not bother to apply here? I've not wanted to apply due to the fact that I don't wish to have a formal denial on my record. Is this sane reasoning? I'm beginning to wonder about it myself. There is no good reason why I should not be allowed to carry a firearm when I choose to do so. Would applying and being denied based on Ahern's unwillingness to issue permits hurt my chances in the future?
No, no, and no (and I had to be told that myself).

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So.....The general concensus is just to not bother to apply here? I've not wanted to apply due to the fact that I don't wish to have a formal denial on my record. Is this sane reasoning? I'm beginning to wonder about it myself. There is no good reason why I should not be allowed to carry a firearm when I choose to do so. Would applying and being denied based on Ahern's unwillingness to issue permits hurt my chances in the future?
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Alameda Co. Sheriff's Office has updated their website:
https://alamedacountysheriff.org/

Of course, no real info to help residents of Ala Co. who aren't thugs, friends/relatives of thugs, or LEOs....

Only mention re LTCs that I came across was a phone number for CCWs (for civilians), on their contact page.
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does anyone know what kind of proof of residence they require and will a cell phone bill work, i dont live alone here and my name is not on the lease or anything, also how long is the process of actually getting your ccw in alameda

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Just found this thread - interesting to see the progression.

My LTC took 10 months in Alameda County. I know the sheriff personally and he treats all the same - "I don't shuffle the deck for anyone". I do know he has put additional personnel on duty in IA to get through the applications faster.

I have to say the CA CCW process is very 'broken' in that it is far from standardized. The hoops that we have to jump through are OK by me. I like the reasoning that we need to be at least proficient and the class taught by the ACSO at the range is top notch (and you have to shoot annually to ensure proficiency). I am good with all of that - the issue I have is that each county has their own standards - it's ridiculous!
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Just found this thread - interesting to see the progression.

My LTC took 10 months in Alameda County. I know the sheriff personally and he treats all the same - "I don't shuffle the deck for anyone". I do know he has put additional personnel on duty in IA to get through the applications faster.

I have to say the CA CCW process is very 'broken' in that it is far from standardized. The hoops that we have to jump through are OK by me. I like the reasoning that we need to be at least proficient and the class taught by the ACSO at the range is top notch (and you have to shoot annually to ensure proficiency). I am good with all of that - the issue I have is that each county has their own standards - it's ridiculous!
Can you enlighten us as far as what the Sheriff considers sufficient good cause to issue a permit?
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Just found this thread - interesting to see the progression.

My LTC took 10 months in Alameda County. I know the sheriff personally and he treats all the same - "I don't shuffle the deck for anyone". I do know he has put additional personnel on duty in IA to get through the applications faster.

I have to say the CA CCW process is very 'broken' in that it is far from standardized. The hoops that we have to jump through are OK by me. I like the reasoning that we need to be at least proficient and the class taught by the ACSO at the range is top notch (and you have to shoot annually to ensure proficiency). I am good with all of that - the issue I have is that each county has their own standards - it's ridiculous!
If (even by itself) 10 months is part of the "hoops that we have to jump through", that to me is NOT OK. I don't know the Sheriff personally, enough said about that part of the element.

The entire process is indeed broken, but whose fault is that? We could say it's the People's fault for voting these people in, but there is way more to it.

It's also NOT ok to approve a carry license for the reasons set forth in one of the parts of the ALCO good cause statements where the race card is dealt by an applicant, nor is it OK to approve because one is "connected" (which I can see in others).

There is a really good reason why litigation is necessary here, but then we have Richards, Peruta, Baker, Kachalsky, Peterson, Woollard, Osterweil, Piszczatoski and others I might have forgotten. I can't see being 0 for all that on cert grant. It's a matter of when we are able to count to 5, but the antis need to be careful what they wish for too.

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Can you enlighten us as far as what the Sheriff considers sufficient good cause to issue a permit?
It's all in the good cause statements, and if you are "similarly situated" to any, you have sufficient cause, but that does NOT mean you'll be recommended or approved for a carry license. Read the statements carefully, and don't just read them once.

Since access to the statements is apparently down, here are all four parts attached:

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Alameda County CCW Policy, Good Cause statements, Guidelines & Forms can be found here
Can someone please figure out if this link is broken ?
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Ala Co SO now has CCW info online!
https://alamedacountysheriff.org/admin_ia_ccw.php

If you go to their home page and in the QUESTIONS column, under the "How Do I ...?" pulldown menu, there's "How do I obtain a CCW Permit?"
https://alamedacountysheriff.org/

Similarly, across the top of each page is a menu, incl "Quick Links." If you select that, a drop down menu includes "CCW Permits."

Of course, this does not mean that the process is not riddled w/violations of state law as well as our 2nd A RKBA....

Ahern ignores the fact that in virtually all of these 80 CCW incidents, the CCWers did NOT know they'd NEED (as opposed to WANT), to carry that day. Is Ahern just ignorant???
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=598875
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Link to the good cause statements is broken. Any update?
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See post #227.

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Help me out folks. I read each post in this thread. Where do we stand on applying for a concealed carry permit? Is the process stagnant? I would like to apply for the license.
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Help me out folks. I read each post in this thread. Where do we stand on applying for a concealed carry permit? Is the process stagnant? I would like to apply for the license.
I haven't kept up w/things in Ala Co per se, but we Californians who want LTCs and live in anti counties (most major urban counties), are waiting for the 9th federal circuit court of appeals in SF to release their decision/opinion in the Peruta-Richards-Baker carry cases. The oral arguments were last Dec, so we're expecting the decision sometime in the next 6 months.

We're also hoping SCOTUS decides to take the Wollard (MD) carry case. Cert. has been requested, so hopefully by Oct 2nd we'll know if they'll take it (although they may decide to take it much later this coming term).

IIRC, if you compare the Good Cause statements that have resulted in getting an Ala Co CCW and you can truthfully state that you have the same/similar GC and you have time, money, and effort you can afford to waste, feel free to apply. You just may win the lottery.

For the rest of us whose only GC is "mere" self-defense/exercise our 2nd A RKBA: most of us are waiting for the fed cts to force issuance, assuming our side wins. We're hoping to win by next 4th of July, or at latest, by 2015 July 4th (SCOTUS' term ends at the end of ea June).

In the mean time, the antis/Dems in Sacto are trying to **** us w/gun control laws. Focus on opposing those and getting all of your friends, family, coworkers, shooting buddies, and church friends to also oppose them.

Wish I had better news.... In the mean time, go thru the links in my sig line to motivate/encourage you to stay in the fight. After all, as they said in Red Dawn (the original), we'll NEVER stop fighting for our RKBA because ... "We live here!"

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In other words . . . have you donated $20,000 to the sheriff's reelection campaign?
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I decided yesterday to take the plunge.
I'm in the process of gathering all documentation. They want ticket/accident information for the last five years. I have a ticket in Fremont and I don't have the information, so down to the courthouse.

We'll see at what phase they kill the application, but I plan to apply.
The procedure is on the website.
All they can do to me is tell me no.

I think I have a legit cause.
1. I was robbed at gunpoint by 2 guys. The bad guys have my ID, address and place of work. They stole cash and about $10K in jewelry.
2. I am a Notary Public and a Real Estate Broker and am often alone conducting business with people I do not know in areas that may not be safe.

The long process begins.
We shall see.......
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I decided yesterday to take the plunge.
I'm in the process of gathering all documentation. They want ticket/accident information for the last five years. I have a ticket in Fremont and I don't have the information, so down to the courthouse.

We'll see at what phase they kill the application, but I plan to apply.
The procedure is on the website.
All they can do to me is tell me no.

I think I have a legit cause.
1. I was robbed at gunpoint by 2 guys. The bad guys have my ID, address and place of work. They stole cash and about $10K in jewelry.
2. I am a Notary Public and a Real Estate Broker and am often alone conducting business with people I do not know in areas that may not be safe.

The long process begins.
We shall see.......
By all means, pay the money for the application if you feel Calguns foundation is going to file suit on your behalf in a mandamus action, including an administrative appeal if any, under CCP §1094.5. Otherwise, thedrickel is right- your application fee may become another donation. Stay strong.
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Since access to the statements is apparently down, here are all four parts attached:

Erik.
I'm not seeing any attachments.. am I missing something?
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If anyone wants to organize to get more CCWers in Alameda, see:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=818852
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Looks like the good cause links are down. Anyone know where I can find them?
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