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Old 03-10-2013, 11:42 PM
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Default Appleseed this weekend at Raahauge's in corona, who's going?

Hey guys, just curious who's going to the Appleseed shoot at Raahauge's this weekend.

Iirc, SeanCasey lost to Penny'sdad and should be attending one.

I'm tentatively planning on going this weekend but like the monthly shoot last weekend where I had an impromptu obligation in Pheonix, I'm going to allow my schedule to work itself out this week before I make any commitments.

Hope to see other Calgunners there!
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Old 03-11-2013, 8:18 AM
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Jon and I are doing the Burro canyon Appleseed on the 23-24th.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:04 AM
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I went, I shot. I DIDn't patch! I highly recommend anyone who shoots rifles to take this course. Shooting 4 MOA is much more challenging than you'd think.

The instruction was great, we had a class size of 15 students and we each had one on one instruction.

At the current price of the course, and the direction ammo availability and pricing is going, you really can't afford not to!
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:59 PM
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I went, I shot. I DIDn't patch! I highly recommend anyone who shoots rifles to take this course. Shooting 4 MOA is much more challenging than you'd think.

The instruction was great, we had a class size of 15 students and we each had one on one instruction.

At the current price of the course, and the direction ammo availability and pricing is going, you really can't afford not to!
How much is it and how many rounds do you need?
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Old 03-22-2013, 6:27 PM
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Info/links at
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=527042

The basics from memory, $80, $40, $10 or $0 depending on your specifics (two day, one day, wife, kid, military).
"What to bring" page says 500 rounds.
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Old 03-23-2013, 8:43 AM
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The basics from memory, $80, $40, $10 or $0 depending on your specifics (two day, one day, wife, kid, military).
"What to bring" page says 500 rounds.
500 rds means I'm out!
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Old 03-23-2013, 9:12 PM
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500 rounds may have been from the days when .22 was cheap and available. Today at Burro I shot less than 200 rounds, we'll see how tomorrow goes.

On a side note, today was great. Shooting, instruction, history and comeradatiy.
Being the good dad, I let Jon use the "good" rifle and he got his riflemans patch in his first AQT!

Double side note, Seancasey was nowhere to be seen...
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I want to do it as soon as I can muster up 500 rounds of .308. Gonna have to work a little overtime for that I imagine!
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Old 03-24-2013, 9:14 PM
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The THOUGHT of 500 rounds of .308 makes my shoulder hurt!
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:42 PM
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I'd highly recommend only shooting .22 until you shoot your patch. I shot around 3-400 rounds. At Raahauge's it was $120 for both days including range fees.
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Ammo remaining in range bag after this weekend would indicate we shot a little over 400 rounds per person.

I think if you were to source a 375 bulk box of .22 you would be fine for the weekend. I would also guess the Appleseed organizers would rather have you on the range a little shy on ammo than sitting home on the coutch!
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Would have loved to had made this one, but it just didn't work out. Going to try for the next one.
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A note on ammo usage.

First, I highly recommend doing the first day and as much as you need of the second day using a 22 to master the fundamentals of the instruction. When you are getting good there switch to your centerfire to confirm that the techniques transfer (allowing for real recoil), confirm your zero and shoot the score.

Second, here's the break down of ammo usage where you will see you have a lot of choice in how much ammo you use. We shoot a Redcoat target as the first and last target of each day, 13 rounds per target x 4 times we shoot it = 52 rounds on redcoats for the weekend.

On the first day we shoot the exercises on 1" squares 5 rounds per exercise perhaps 12 exercises = 60 rounds. We then shoot an AQT target = 40 rounds.

On sunday we shoot some refresher 1" squares perhaps 6 exercises at 5 rounds per exercise = 30 rounds.

Now we shoot what we call the AQT grind... each AQT target is 40 rounds. There is the opportunity to shoot seven or 8 of these but you only need to shoot as many as you need to get your score, or until you feel you have had enough. You can sit out rounds of AQTs to rest/recover/regroup etc.

Each AQT is shot in 4 stages of 10 rounds each. So its not like you blast off 40 rounds at the target to try and get score. You can use each stage as simply more exercises to
polish each technique as you require, instructors can work with you on this. Others and you eventually will get to a stage where you just want to get in your bubble and shoot each AQT with minimal intervention so you can focus on time and shooting for score.

So of the "mandatory" exercises its 126 rounds on Sat and Sun 56. The rest is 40 rounds per AQT as you see fit/useful. Nothing is "mandatory" at an Appleseed, we are after all all free, armed Americans on a shooting range; we try to work with all shooters limitations, be it health, age, equipment, etc. We are here to have fun and celebrate the Heritage of Marksmanship... its not a bootcamp.

We try to run the shoots at the pace of the group, not the slowest, not the fastest but the group as a whole.

Hope this helps... believe me we understand the ammo situation.

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Old 03-25-2013, 6:01 PM
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ROFL at lot of Sean Casey smack talk going!

Hi V, good to see you in the Chapters.
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Old 03-25-2013, 6:50 PM
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Should we start taking bets as to who will earn their Rifleman patch first, Tinman or SeanCasey?

Big Thanks to Penny's Dad for the great instruction and even more for letting Jon use your rifle on Sunday!
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:-)

Maybe Tinman AND Mr. Casey should come to the Burro Appleseed in April ;-)
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