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Old 03-22-2013, 9:11 PM
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You believe the voting process and its system? Remember all those dead people who voted to elect JFK?

No, You lost the right when you accepted this illegitimate corrupt system. Let alone blindly serve to perpetuate it.

Small silver lining in all of this, maybe more people will be introduced to guns with their first panic buy purchase.
It drove my GF to buy her first, a Browning Buckmark. When we met she couldn't fathom a gun in the house had never shot. after 4 years and living together for one and some change she's come around. I never forced it on her, that day at the store I went looking for myself. She took the initiative took the written and bought it because of that reason she had an idea she wanted one and is unsure like many people what our legislators may bring on us.
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I'm not sure if this the best hoarding thread ever or the worst hoarding thread ever.
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Hey OP. Want some? I would sell to you but your Itrader is no bueno.

thats all ya got? thats not a hoard thats a begginers collection.
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Rather than actually go hunting or shooting, I think some of the horders draw their blinds, lube up and mount their ammo dumps with visions of .338 Lapua rounds dancing in their brains...
No... actually burned up about 50 each .22 & .357 and maybe 100 .45ACP today.

It won't be missed...
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Hey OP. Want some? I would sell to you but your Itrader is no bueno.

I'd be freaking out with that tiny stock pile.
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Time to teach you fools how to horde ammo. After shooting quite a few rounds, here is a pic of my stash:



2x .357
10x .40 reloads from a local range
100x .22

Not pictured:

completely out of .223 and 7.32x39


But you know what I do have? Plenty of shelf space. You guys just keep buying all the ammo and eventually you are going to run out of places to put it. I'm waiting for the shelving panic of 2013 to kick in, and then I'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

Who's jelly now?


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If anyone needs ammo and your along the area, I still got room in a Group Buy...The GB closes on Monday night...

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Rather than actually go hunting or shooting, I think some of the horders draw their blinds, lube up and mount their ammo dumps with visions of .338 Lapua rounds dancing in their brains...
I will admit that I have refrained from shooting recently (last time I even shot was in IA during the holidays, hunting and blowing shyt up...

Typically I shoot 2-4 times per month (several hundred rounds of various caliber each outing)... and I always let others (who are with me) shoot as much of my ammo they want... but even though I have plenty (pic is not all)... I can't bring myself to shoot it right now... everything I have is pre-panic purchase and since I refuse to pay absurd prices to replace, I have gone into hiatus.

It's psychological for sure (I couldn't shoot everything I have if I tried)... maybe by definition I'm a hoarder, but I'm reluctant to let my stash dip too low...
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I will admit that I have refrained from shooting recently (last time I even shot was in IA during the holidays, hunting and blowing shyt up...

Typically I shoot 2-4 times per month (several hundred rounds of various caliber each outing)... and I always let others (who are with me) shoot as much of my ammo they want... but even though I have plenty (pic is not all)... I can't bring myself to shoot it right now... everything I have is pre-panic purchase and since I refuse to pay absurd prices to replace, I have gone into hiatus.

It's psychological for sure (I couldn't shoot everything I have if I tried)... maybe by definition I'm a hoarder, but I'm reluctant to let my stash dip too low...
There's nothing wrong with what you outline. It sounds as if you actually shoot. Some here posting photos of their beloved stockpiles seem to derive pleasure and a sense of security from ammo in a way other than shooting it.
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no matter what, I'm not opeing all fifty-some cans of ammo I pictured previously just to rub his nose in it..

but I will share this from a spreadsheet I've been working on

it's still work in progress.. and it's a little jumbeled up but you get the idea.

it looks fabulous in excel..

and there is no count on any rimfire yet.. .17hmr, .22short, .22lr, or .22mag

or either of my light boxes..

or pd/hd ammo in any of the safes.


SHELF 1
CAN CALIBER TOTAL RDS BRAND WEIGHT DESCRIPTION RDS/BOX
11 .40sw 700 Blazer Brass 180 FMJ p/n 5220 50/box
12 .40sw 300 Blazer Brass 180 FMJ p/n 5220 50/box
.40sw 500 Rem UMC 180 MC p/n L40SW3A 250/box

13B .45acp 500 Blazer Brass 230 FMJ p/n 5230 50/box
13C .45acp 600 Fed Champion 230 FMJ p/n 50/box
13 .45acp 1000 Win USA 230 FMJ p/n USA45AVP White Box USA 100/box
14 .45acp 1000 Blazer Brass 230 FMJ p/n 5230 50/box
15 .45acp 1000 Blazer Brass 230 FMJ p/n 5230 50/box

SHELF 2
CAN CALIBER TOTAL RDS BRAND WEIGHT DESCRIPTION RDS/BOX
21 5.56mm 870 Fed USGI 62gr RRLP on strippers 30/box
21.5 5.56mm 420 Fed brown box 62gr XM855LC brown box on strippers 30/box
22 5.56mm m/t future use
23 5.56mm 780 Fed AR5.56 AE 55gr FMJ XM193J black box on strippers 30/box
25 5.56mm 500 Fed brown box 55gr MCBT XM193F brown box 20/box
25.5 5.56mm 1000 Fed white box 55gr MCBT XM193F white box

26 .30-06 40 Rem Express 150gr PSP p/n R30062 Core-Lokt green/yellow box 20/box
.30-06 40 Rem Express 180gr PSP p/n R30065 Core-Lokt green/yellow box 20/box
.30-06 100 Win Super X 165gr PSP p/n X30065 silver box 20/box

27 .308win 140 Win Ranger 168gr HPBT p/n RA308M Ranger Match 20/box
.308win 40 Win Super X 150gr p/n X3085 Power Point 20/box
40 Rem Express 150gr PSP p/n R308W1 Core-Lokt 20/box

28 .300wm 20 Rem Core-Lokt 150gr PSP p/n R300W1 Core-Lokt green/yellow box 20/box
20 Rem Core-Lokt 180gr PSP p/n R300W2 Core-Lokt green/ yellow box 20/box
30/30 0 future use

SHELF 3
CAN CALIBER TOTAL RDS BRAND WEIGHT DESCRIPTION RDS/BOX
50A .50bmg 20 AZ Ammo 750gr Hornady A-Max coated Arizona Ammo 10/box
10 Talon 647gr USGI m33 ball steel core 10/box
50B .50bmg 40 HSM 750gr Hornady A-Max Hunting Shack 10/box
30 Hornady 750gr Hornady A-Max Hornady p/n 8270 10/box
50C .50bmg 40 Freedom 750gr Hornady A-Max Freedom Munitions 10/box

16A 12ga 190 Noble NSI ball slug 2 3/4 10/box
16B 12ga 60 Noble NSI ball slug 2 3/4 10/box
12ga 100 Wolf rifled slugs 2 3/4 5/box
17A 12ga 85 USGI 00buck Feb-34 5/box
12ga 10 civi 00buck 2 3/4 5/box
17B 12ga 80 Win Lite 00buck low recoil 9 pellet 2 3/4 5/box
18 12ga 100 Win Universal 8 shot p/n U128 25/box
19 12ga 100 Win Universal 7 1/2 shot p/u U127 25/box
20A 20ga 200 Fed F&T 7 1/2 shot p/n MP207.5 Field & Target 25/box
20B 20ga 100 Estate 8 shot Super Sport Competition target 25/box

10 rimfire

RSL RSL ready service locker LITE BOX

SHELF 4
CAN CALIBER TOTAL RDS BRAND WEIGHT DESCRIPTION RDS/BOX
1 9mm 500 Federal 115gr RN p/nWM5199 50/box
2 9mm 500 Federal 115gr RN p/nWM5199 50/box
3 9mm 500 Blazer Brass 115gr FMJ p/n 5200 50/box
4 9mm 500 Blazer Brass 115gr FMJ p/n 5200 50/box
5 9mm 1000 Rem UMC 115gr MC p/n L9M3A 250/box
6 9mm 1000 Rem UMC 115gr MC p/n L9M3A 250/box
7 9mm 1000 Jim Sharp 124gr FMJ once fired mil brass / Berry's bullets 50/box
8 9mm 150 USGI M882 Ball 50/box
9 9mm 600 Win White Box 115gr FMJ p/n USA9MMVP 100/box
9B 9mm 100 Blazer Alum 124gr FMJ 3578 50/box
9mm 150 Blazer Brass 115gr FMJ 5200 50/box

40A .40 S&W 350 Fed White Box 165gr FMJ Range and Target RT40165 50/box
40B .40 S&W 200 Win White Box 180gr JHP bonded JHP Q4369 50/box
Yet you took the time to list everything?
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Old 03-23-2013, 1:43 PM
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LOL
this is turning into a "whos got more ammo" pissing contest.
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Old 03-23-2013, 3:53 PM
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This thread is laughable. You have one group trying to show off their big collections, which are pretty measly if you ask me. Then, another group whining because they didn't prepare themselves for the inevitable.
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Anyone can type a bunch if stuff but without pics they are just words.
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Hey anybody knows if manufacturers are working overtime and at increased production to deal with the current panic? I am talking about real info. D not assumptions. The OP said companies are producing "at the same rate as they have been historically" or something like that.
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Hey anybody knows if manufacturers are working overtime and at increased production to deal with the current panic? I am talking about real info. D not assumptions. The OP said companies are producing "at the same rate as they have been historically" or something like that.
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If they are working OT to get more ammo out then that is not going to drop the price.
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Hey anybody knows if manufacturers are working overtime and at increased production to deal with the current panic? I am talking about real info. D not assumptions. The OP said companies are producing "at the same rate as they have been historically" or something like that.
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As per Federal's Website (for what it's worth):

"Our facilities operate 24-hours a day. We are continually making process improvements to increase our efficiency and investing in capital and personnel where we have sustained demand. We are bringing additional capacity online again this year."
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Hey anybody knows if manufacturers are working overtime and at increased production to deal with the current panic? I am talking about real info. D not assumptions. The OP said companies are producing "at the same rate as they have been historically" or something like that.
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as reported, DHS buying 1.6 billion rounds... and much more that I'm sure isn't reported... might have something to do with it?

I've seen it from several sources, and I'm sure it's been posted on CGN... here's a link from quick google search: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphben...-conversation/

Since it's our tax dollars paying for it, I guess we're part of the hoarding problem (even those that are anti-hoarding)
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Its partially hoarders, and a lot to do with people buying it up at regular price and reselling on Gunbroker for whatever they can get
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I really dont't understand how a group of people who claim to be fighting for our constitutional right neglect the most basic one. As a citizen of the United States, we are all granted equal opportunity, not equal outcome.

We all had the same opportunity to either "hoard" ammo or buy with the intention of reselling.

For reference, I posted a pic of my ammo stash somewhere on the page and am definitely one on the losing end of the ammo hoarding game. But, I will stand up for those that went about it differently.
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If I don't horde it, someone else will. It is almost like currency these days.
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Cashed in my IRA to invest in ammo!! LOL! And my 401k is now my 45 ACP!
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223 for $12.95 a box
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ok, this was harder than I thought. You can't explain economics to people who don't remotely understand it.
speaking economics... this is windfall profits at its best. The invisible hand will have the increased demand of ammo lead to increased profits per unit. This will naturally lead to an increase in supply (ammo production) by manufactures. I don't buy that ammo manufacturers aren't taking advantage of this, and trying to increase production to compete with each other for this opportunity.
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speaking economics... this is windfall profits at its best. The invisible hand will have the increased demand of ammo lead to increased profits per unit. This will naturally lead to an increase in supply (ammo production) by manufactures. I don't buy that ammo manufacturers aren't taking advantage of this, and trying to increase production to compete with each other for this opportunity.
Not necessarily...

The demand is artificial and will crash at some point.

Plus, this is already lights-out, 24/7 production. It's not like all they have to do is train some people for a second or third shift. A material increase in production will require significant capital investment and if they see a crash coming anytime soon, the manufacturers might well be reticent to invest $$$.
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I know I am late to this post but why is it that people are hoarding ammo and stores have inventory. I like to increase my "inventory" and rotate it just like stores. I am not a hoarder!
I am not hoarding, I am stocking up.
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I don't think that the OP should be telling big sis to stop hoarding ammo. Especially with such a poor Itrader/character rating. Stuff like this will get him put on her dreaded domestic list.
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The problem is not people "hoarding" it is people speculating
ie. buying to resell to idiots prepared to pay silly prices.
Relax - don't buy from such people, and things will settle down.
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saw a number of guys at a LGS grab a bag of loose 100rd pack of .223 ammo (I think they were re-loads too) for $109+tax...i actually overheard the guy say, "I can't believe I'm buying this, but i NEED it"...

glad i bought pre-panic, but now i can't shoot as much as i want.
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The problem is not people "hoarding" it is people speculating
ie. buying to resell to idiots prepared to pay silly prices.
Relax - don't buy from such people, and things will settle down.
I agree, the problem isn't people that have stocked up prior to the panic. I have about two years supply of ammo and reloading supplies that I mostly picked up whenever it was on sale. This isn't hoarding, it's bargain hunting and planning. I think the OP po'd people in this category, but I don't think he meant them. It's more the recent panic buyers that pay high prices buying anything they can their hands as well as the speculators that are causing the problem. But that's their preogative and the free market will adjust and I'm hoping by the end of the year we will have a huge surplus and I can start resupplying at bargain prices again.
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Another casualty of hoarding/speculating is .22LR shooting as part of youth groups. I guess the different groups like the BSA, 4H, Indian Guides, etc. should have all stocked up a lot more, aye? :/
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saw a number of guys at a LGS grab a bag of loose 100rd pack of .223 ammo (I think they were re-loads too) for $109+tax...i actually overheard the guy say, "I can't believe I'm buying this, but i NEED it"...

glad i bought pre-panic, but now i can't shoot as much as i want.
"NEED"?
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I am down to 100 rounds of 22 LR. Right now I would pretty much pay anything within reason for some 22 LR.
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I just sold 2000 rounds of .22LR. I just don't shoot very much nowdays.
So ammo is available.
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hoard as much as you can, if you dont hoard it you wont have it when you need it.
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I am down to 100 rounds of 22 LR. Right now I would pretty much pay anything within reason for some 22 LR.
Would you pay $65 for a box of CCI Blazer, 525 rounds? That's the highest I've seen it for recently. And it sells, so somebody thinks that's reasonable.
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For me, shooting is an enjoyable pastime, if I can't find ammo for something, I guess I won't be shooting it. Aside from .22lr though, I can shoot as long as I have primers and lead.

But you know, instead of going shooting, I'll go for a bike ride if I have no ammo.

Sure sure, save some for home defense or whatever, but that's like one box of 50.

yes, my skills will degrade, I'll just have to pick it up after the panic.
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Would you pay $65 for a box of CCI Blazer, 525 rounds? That's the highest I've seen it for recently. And it sells, so somebody thinks that's reasonable.
Holy crap that's insane! Ditto on the guy who said he saw a guy pay $109 for 100 rounds of .224! (Which, pre-panic would have cost $20)

The problem with "panic" is that people think they need it. Seriously, if I were on a ship I thought was sinking, I'd pay $10,000 for a life jacket. The guy who doesn't think the ship is sinking will gladly sell me his life jacket.
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