Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > FIREARMS DISCUSSIONS > California handguns
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

California handguns Discuss your favorite California handgun technical and related questions here.

View Poll Results: Which one is your choice for self defense if given only between revolver and pistol?
A revolver 89 37.24%
A Pistol 150 62.76%
Voters: 239. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 03-23-2013, 12:51 PM
CK_32's Avatar
CK_32 CK_32 is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Orange County
Posts: 14,297
iTrader: 37 / 100%
Default

Good point. In for some porn

Office piece



Bed side companions

__________________
For Sale: 40 S&W Bullet Case Valve Stem Caps

What's Your Caliber??


My Youtube channel
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 03-23-2013, 12:58 PM
railgunner railgunner is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Fresno,Ca.
Posts: 260
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

A pistol for pocket carry. You can shot without taking it out of your pocket in close encounter. I like pistol as a side arm. Revolver less rounds pistol more. Revoler no jam pistol maybe. I carry Ruger lcr38+p when I pocket carry (internal hammer) and it disappears in your pocket. Carry full size M&P9 for side arm carry.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 03-23-2013, 2:28 PM
redcliff's Avatar
redcliff redcliff is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Shasta County
Posts: 5,171
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

I"m so proud so many know the difference between the terms Pistol (a handgun with the chamber integral to the barrel) versus a Revolver (a handgun with the chambers contained in a revolving cylinder) as used by the firearms industry and firearms experts.

I've posted on this subject several times in the past when I get tired of people calling revolvers "pistols" and have caused some heated debate, all started because Sam Colt didn't realize he had developed a gamechanger and referred to his revolver (he didn't invent them, he came up with the first practical one)as a pistol initially. When semi-automatic pistols appeared it became evident a refinement of the classification was needed, although even by the late 1870's Colt no longer called their revolver's "pistols".

As to the OP, I have a 1911 pistol upstairs and a 629 revolver downstairs by the door
__________________
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
"What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
"An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

"While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"


Last edited by redcliff; 03-23-2013 at 2:52 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 03-23-2013, 2:49 PM
capaxone capaxone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 43
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CK_32 View Post
Which ever is closer and will work every time..

Glock 17 nightstand

GP 100 4" in the office
Beretta 92fs with 5 loaded mags by bedside...and I'm ready.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 03-23-2013, 2:58 PM
BayouBullets BayouBullets is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: North Louisiana Forests
Posts: 276
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Inside the house I can use whatever I want. The first thing I grab is what's handy. That said: if I'm in a room with a .357, that's what I grab first. No bother to reload. I've got six good shots to get my daughter's room secured. After that, go directly to a pistol if six .357 didn't get me to a loaded long-gun. 16 more in 9mm should get me to a long-gun.
__________________
9mm and 45acp are equally lousy. There's not a dime's worth of difference in REAL terminal ballistics. Get over it.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 03-23-2013, 4:45 PM
451040's Avatar
451040 451040 is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: So. PRK
Posts: 2,103
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Self-defense, pistol. Combat, pistol.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 03-23-2013, 7:59 PM
JoshuaS's Avatar
JoshuaS JoshuaS is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,617
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

There more I think about this, there are many factors. If I could have one self defense handgun, and I carried, I would need to get something I could carry most days, so not too big. And I would have to consider the environment I would be carrying it in. I don't care if you maintain your semi-auto's regularly, very few people clean them every other day unless they are shooting that often. And if you carry in a dirty/dusty environment, like construction, or outside in a dusty area, if grit gets into your pockets, well a revolver sticks out as the superior choice. If you go to an office all day, then a semi-auto is fine and comes down (in the case of pocket pistols) to which you can carry more comfortably and shoot better, as round count difference is negligible on the baby pistols.

In the end a very subjective matter. What are you comfortable with, if you carry what can you carry, what can you shoot well, and what sort of "abuse" will it get?

I will say there is much to be said for a revolver in the home too, even if that is its only theatre. Longer barrel, easier for many (at least myself) to point shoot than a semi-auto. But in either case, you want a full size gun for the home if you can.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 03-23-2013, 8:28 PM
BIGDJG's Avatar
BIGDJG BIGDJG is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: central,cali
Posts: 308
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Myself semi auto pistol
My wife revolver -ease of use and reliability
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 03-23-2013, 8:41 PM
softmentor softmentor is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 418
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Default

Dittos bigdjg
Pistol for me - fairly regular shooter, comfortable with the mechanics of a pistol.
Revolver for my wife - once in a rare while shooter, doesn't want to have to fuss on think, just point-bang.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 03-23-2013, 8:44 PM
Nick Adams Nick Adams is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 889
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

What is better a stick shift or an automatic?
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 03-23-2013, 8:45 PM
Nick Adams Nick Adams is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 889
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CK_32 View Post
Good point. In for some porn

Office piece



Bed side companions

It looks like you should just stay at the office.
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 03-23-2013, 8:49 PM
ThiZZ's Avatar
ThiZZ ThiZZ is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 405
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

I am quite possibly the worst revolver shooter. LOL. I keep a pistol as my nightstand gun.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 03-23-2013, 8:50 PM
robcoe's Avatar
robcoe robcoe is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Long Beach
Posts: 8,668
iTrader: 12 / 100%
Default

There is no universal wrong or right answer to that question. It all comes down to what you are familer with and can use best

Personally, I use my GP100, I have had it the longest, I have the most practice with it, and of all the guns I own it and my coach gun are the only ones that have both extensive use and have NEVER had a malfuntion of any sort, so those are the 2 guns I absolutely trust
__________________
Yes, I am an electrical engineer.
No, I will not fix your computer.

Last edited by robcoe; 03-23-2013 at 8:54 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 03-23-2013, 8:50 PM
ThiZZ's Avatar
ThiZZ ThiZZ is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 405
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Adams View Post
What is better a stick shift or an automatic?
stick shift hands down.
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 03-23-2013, 10:14 PM
chim-chim7's Avatar
chim-chim7 chim-chim7 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Lakeside, CA
Posts: 1,845
iTrader: 19 / 100%
Default

Revolvers will always be more reliable than semi-auto pistols under intense use. Revolvers rarely jam, it almost never happens. In many heated moments, adrenaline can cause people to have trouble racking a slide or cause a stove pipe from limp wrisiting a shot in panic.
Others have mentioned limited shots with revolvers. When it comes to things that can go wrong, semi-autos can be more problematic. Even still, I practice enough with a semi-auto that I feel confident I can use it properly in a intense situation. For beginner shooters without any training, I would always suggest a revolver.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 03-23-2013, 10:28 PM
taloft's Avatar
taloft taloft is offline
Well used Member
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lemon Grove
Posts: 2,700
iTrader: 9 / 100%
Default

Tomato, tomata. It doesn't really matter. Just for giggles I'll argue for the revolver side, even though my nightstand gun tonight is a semi auto with a light.

Most SD shootings occur within 5 yards, 3 shots, and under 3 seconds.

1. With practice, and modern speed loaders, revolvers are quick to reload.
2. A semi auto becomes a single shot, and not a good one, when you lose the magazine.
3. If you learn how to shoot properly, it doesn't take 10+ rounds to nail your target.
4. I've never had a double feed jam on a revolver.
5. There's no tap-rack-bang when a revolver misfires, you just squeeze the trigger again.
6. I can stick a revolver right into your sternum and it will still fire. No slide to get out of battery.
7. If a bad guy grabs the barrel he gets burned and shot. Did I mention no slide to get out of battery?
7. Snake shot works in a revolver.
8. You can shoot a shrouded J-frame while it is still in your coat pocket. Yes, it is hard on the coat.
9. You don't have to pickup brass with a revolver.(my personal favorite)
10. They are dirt simple to use and will eat anything you feed it.


What I chose depends on what I'm doing and where I'm at. I don't feel under gunned with either.
__________________
.




"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something."--Plato
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 03-23-2013, 11:53 PM
HKMadness HKMadness is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: LA County
Posts: 4,990
iTrader: 46 / 100%
Default

Quote:
9. You don't have to pickup brass with a revolver.(my personal favorite)
Love this about wheel guns.
__________________
Hk-free since 2013!
1911-free since July 2016!

Show your friends your 1911's and your enemies your glocks!
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 03-24-2013, 12:06 AM
frankm's Avatar
frankm frankm is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Occupied Vespuchia
Posts: 9,874
iTrader: 25 / 100%
Default

All the info above about the utter reliability of revolvers is true. But there are two problems that can come up with them. One, short stroking the revolver. This is where you don't pull the trigger all the way back. The cylinder can still move and you may "think" you have fired a dud. The other problem is someone can grab it while the hammer is going back and wedge their hand into the spot so that it doesn't fire. I know a cop who did this and saved his own life. Hurt like hell getting the hammer into the webbing of his hand. But it didn't fire.
__________________
RKBA Clock: soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box (12/7/16)
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 03-24-2013, 12:08 AM
Tripeaks69's Avatar
Tripeaks69 Tripeaks69 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 941
iTrader: 9 / 91%
Default

I choose Pistol, no doubt. Either Glock 23 or Colt Combat Commander


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 03-24-2013, 1:13 PM
lisinopril's Avatar
lisinopril lisinopril is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Everywhere...travel a lot
Posts: 394
iTrader: 21 / 100%
Default

Revolver fans still assume that pistols are prone to jam and harder to clean up....I totally disagree.
Reply With Quote
  #61  
Old 03-24-2013, 2:26 PM
RedFord150 RedFord150 is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Eastern LA County
Posts: 5,606
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HKMadness View Post
There is a misconception that revolvers "will never, ever jam". It's a mechanical object and as such, is subject to mechanical failure at any time. Parts can break. ....


^^^They can, but rarely do.
Semi-Autos can be picky on magazine and ammo selection. Magazines get damaged. This is not a problem with revolvers.
When a Semi-Auto fails, it is usually correctable. When a revolver fails, you usually need a gunsmith.
Taurus is the only revolver that ever failed on me. Ruger, Colt, etc. are 100% reliable for me.
Speed Six in the nightstand, 1911 in the safe.
__________________
God Did Not Create All Men Equal, Colonel Colt Did.
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 03-24-2013, 2:38 PM
mjmagee67's Avatar
mjmagee67 mjmagee67 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 1,784
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jessegpresley View Post
A pistol is a handgun where the chamber is connected to the barrel, so revolvers and pistols are two different types of handgun.
According to the Websters dictionary a Pistol is 1. "A firearm that is held and fired with one hand" 2. "The smallest firearm used, intended to be fired from one hand, -- now of many patterns, and bearing a great variety of names."
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 03-24-2013, 2:44 PM
ImprezaSTI ImprezaSTI is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 423
iTrader: 24 / 100%
Default

I vote semi-auto.
I disagree with the people who say that you won't need to practice with a revolver because I actually own both and find that I shoot the semi a lot better with little training. The double action on most revolvers are really hard to master.
Also, I was actually in a pretty scary situation once where 3 guys tried to break into my home. I ran into my room to get my 1911 and 2 mags and when I got out, they were running away. I think the extra rounds and fast reloads would've been necessary if I had to start shooting.
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 03-24-2013, 2:48 PM
Knomad Knomad is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Humboldt County
Posts: 294
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

I prefer a pistol. My wife prefers a revolver. It's whatever works for each person, and confidence in that choice is important.
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 03-24-2013, 3:26 PM
12ga's Avatar
12ga 12ga is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 276
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ImprezaSTI View Post
I vote semi-auto.
I disagree with the people who say that you won't need to practice with a revolver because I actually own both and find that I shoot the semi a lot better with little training. The double action on most revolvers are really hard to master.
Also, I was actually in a pretty scary situation once where 3 guys tried to break into my home. I ran into my room to get my 1911 and 2 mags and when I got out, they were running away. I think the extra rounds and fast reloads would've been necessary if I had to start shooting.
It isn't a matter of practice, it is a matter of maintenance. You can't leave a semi-auto in a drawer for 3 years and expect it to reliably function when you need it. Where leaving a revolver in a drawer untouched for years will still work reliably.

Practice is a another matter entirely, and practice is required to be proficient with any weapon.
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 03-24-2013, 3:49 PM
TheWhopper's Avatar
TheWhopper TheWhopper is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 62
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

With 400 million guns in circulation anyone can obtain a gun if they want to, many of those handguns use a magazine, economy may get worse which mean people may be come more desperate...thus...

If two people with a handgun, each carrying at least 10 rounds, you'll be outgunned and may end in in a bad situation. Reload takes forever unless you have a speedloader, or moonclip, or something.

Here's a youtube video where a guy had to fight off multiple attackers, each carrying a gun..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuhKCiY-lu0

I've yet to experience a jam after breaking in my firearms (except for my Ruger that shoots 22lr). Even during the break-in process you can clear a jam in a couple seconds.

Plus, if you hit the range or practice shooting, you eventually get annoyed with having to reload after 6 shots.
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 03-24-2013, 4:33 PM
fullrearview's Avatar
fullrearview fullrearview is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Carson Valley, NV
Posts: 9,377
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glock4T6 View Post
pistol, more rounds, better chance to defend yourself, get Glock, no jam there, just my .02 cent
EVERY gun can "jam". Glock, revolver, even the mighty AK.
__________________
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."~M.Twain~
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 03-24-2013, 4:43 PM
CK_32's Avatar
CK_32 CK_32 is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Orange County
Posts: 14,297
iTrader: 37 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Adams View Post
It looks like you should just stay at the office.
Home office not work office haha
__________________
For Sale: 40 S&W Bullet Case Valve Stem Caps

What's Your Caliber??


My Youtube channel
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 03-24-2013, 8:42 PM
Virus55's Avatar
Virus55 Virus55 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Modesto,CA
Posts: 1,652
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

I have revolvers and i have semi auto pistols. Only saying semi auto pistol because it holds more ammo. and i love my Glocks. other wise id one of my smith model 36
__________________
Death Before Dishoner To My Country Or My Badge!
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 03-25-2013, 2:21 AM
chim-chim7's Avatar
chim-chim7 chim-chim7 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Lakeside, CA
Posts: 1,845
iTrader: 19 / 100%
Default

Revolvers are too slow to shoot and reload.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB3CJgq3zNI
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 03-25-2013, 12:39 PM
Sunday Sunday is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Shasta Co.
Posts: 5,471
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Which ever one turns you on. There are advantages to both.
__________________
California the only state in the union where the idiot gun owners vote in anti gun politicians and wonder where their gun rights have gone.
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 03-26-2013, 10:27 AM
lisinopril's Avatar
lisinopril lisinopril is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Everywhere...travel a lot
Posts: 394
iTrader: 21 / 100%
Default

Most beginners will prefer revolvers vs semi since they are intimidated by jamming of semi. My friend got scared when he saw a semi jammed and never wanted to buy a semi after that.
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 03-26-2013, 5:07 PM
Grayblue Grayblue is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 314
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redcliff View Post
I"m so proud so many know the difference between the terms Pistol (a handgun with the chamber integral to the barrel) versus a Revolver (a handgun with the chambers contained in a revolving cylinder) as used by the firearms industry and firearms experts.

I've posted on this subject several times in the past when I get tired of people calling revolvers "pistols" and have caused some heated debate, all started because Sam Colt didn't realize he had developed a gamechanger and referred to his revolver (he didn't invent them, he came up with the first practical one)as a pistol initially. When semi-automatic pistols appeared it became evident a refinement of the classification was needed, although even by the late 1870's Colt no longer called their revolver's "pistols".

As to the OP, I have a 1911 pistol upstairs and a 629 revolver downstairs by the door
I don't care what Colt calles his pistols. And, Colt was not the first inventor of revolvers either.

Revolvers are a type of pistol.

The term has been around far before revolvers and self-loading pistols ever came to existance.

Pistol means a firearm that can be operated with primary contact with one hand. Either a self-loader, revolver, and even a flint lock can be operated that way, so there is no logical need for the term itself to be re-defined because a revolver does not have a chamber that is integral to the barrel. Why? Because IT IS LOGICALLY IRRELEVANT. Only a name for a SUBCATEGORY was needed.

I know some dictionary has that ridiculous definition for the term pistol, and my advice would be to stop taking gun advice from a dictionary.

What next? Should someone start argue that M134 is not a machine gun because it has a multiple rotating barrel, unlike other machine guns, and therefore we need to re-define machine guns?

What does PPC stand for? Police Pistol Combat. I never heard of a cop who got disqualfied from PPC because he or she showed up with a revolver. Why would anyone name a major competition event in an era where absolute majority of the people would show up with a revolver a Police PISTOL Combat if revolver is not a pistol? The term "pistol" was used to include revolvers in an area where self-loaders were a minority without any significant objection. It's only when revolver started to be a minority when this ridiculous assertion came along.

Let me summarize this for people to understand it easier.

- The term "pistol" existed before either revolver or self-loader ever came to existance.
- At that time, the term meant a gun that can be operated with primary contact of a single hand.
- Revolver which came to existance later is also operated that way, and meets the definiton of a pistol.
- There is no logical reason why the term pistol needs to be re-defined because a revolver does not have a chamber integral to the barrel. It is simply IRRELEVANT to the characteristics of a pistol.
- Even after the emergence of a revolver, it has been called a "pistol" with out any ridiculous objection for many decades in era where self-loading pistols were a minority.

Now this is the ridiculous Merriam-Webster definition:

: a handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel

Correct me if I am wrong, but the English term handgun came after the invention of the term pistol. How can a word or concept that appeared later be used to define what has existed before? That is how ridiculous the dictionary definition is.

And, now we have people coming along to "educate" people of their knowledge of "re-defined" definition of a "pistol" which makes no logical sense.

Last edited by Grayblue; 03-26-2013 at 5:51 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 03-29-2013, 7:42 PM
Russ Florian's Avatar
Russ Florian Russ Florian is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 205
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

"semi auto"pistol.
My PPQ 40 laughs at your friends jamming comment.
More bullets is mainly why
easier to load
Easier to conceal gun & mags
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 03-29-2013, 8:31 PM
TheThousands's Avatar
TheThousands TheThousands is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 504
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

I personally prefer my glock for HD, so I guess pistol for me. It's eaten a few thousand rounds now without any jams so I am confident in it's reliability and with two magazines of Federal 147gr HST's I think it can deal with any threat in my home.

If it can't my dad is always there to back me up with his 686 and/or 12 gauge
Reply With Quote
  #76  
Old 03-29-2013, 8:38 PM
wxl wxl is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Thousand Oaks
Posts: 234
iTrader: 16 / 100%
Default

Glock for me, more rounds. S&W 22 magnum revolver for the wife, prefers the simplicity and not having to rack. These should keep them at bay until my daughter comes with the Mossberg 12 gauge and Mini 14.
Reply With Quote
  #77  
Old 03-29-2013, 10:21 PM
dc2integra dc2integra is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 887
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

I say pistol hold more rounds and if needed you can reload alot faster.
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 03-29-2013, 10:25 PM
rabagley's Avatar
rabagley rabagley is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Near Seattle, WA
Posts: 7,188
iTrader: 21 / 100%
Default

I have chosen a S&W642PP for my self-defense firearm. That's a revolver. I chose it because, in my experience, revolvers are more reliable than semi-autos and there's less to do to clear a misfire. I also have a Glock 36 and have carried it in the past, but I prefer the revolver.
__________________
"Ecuador offers the United States $23 million a year in economic aid, an amount similar to what we were receiving under the tariff benefits, with the purpose of providing human rights training that will contribute to avoid violations of people's privacy, that degrade humanity," --Fernando Alvarado

Last edited by rabagley; 03-29-2013 at 10:27 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 03-29-2013, 11:04 PM
Grayblue Grayblue is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 314
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

To answer your quiry, I prefer self-loaders.

It has very less to do with capacity, as I would prefer a 7 shot 1911 to a 8 shot S&W 357 revolvers.

- Only self-loaders give me a short pull 2.5~3 kg (about 5~7 lb) triggers with pistols such as M&P.
- Self-loaders are more ergonomic for me because they allow a grip and trigger arrangement that more resembles a human hand. For example, in order to shoot a revolver, I need to painfully crank my wrist downward, place my index finger on the trigger that is in FRONT of the middle finger then pull the trigger TOWARD THE MIDDLE FINGER in an awkwardly twisted manner. Self-loader trigger finger placement is generally placed above the middle finger which actually resembles a haman hand shape.

A number of newer model revolvers come out with front of grip middle finger placement not as high as the older ones, so it does not create a situation where the trigger is in front of the middle finger. But, that forces a lower grip on the front side. I either have to tilt my wrist down or deal with a high bore axis, or both.

Last edited by Grayblue; 03-29-2013 at 11:09 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 04-05-2013, 7:26 AM
lisinopril's Avatar
lisinopril lisinopril is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Everywhere...travel a lot
Posts: 394
iTrader: 21 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ Florian View Post
"semi auto"pistol.
My PPQ 40 laughs at your friends jamming comment.
More bullets is mainly why
easier to load
Easier to conceal gun & mags
Not everyone has the common sense like that. My friend keeps bashing about how semi-auto gets easily jammed while his revolver is almost impossible to jam, thus he never wanna touch/buy semi-auto pistol. He always looks for revolvers , and this will never change. I just wanna save his *** from getting shot in future due to unable to faster load . But someone never learns...

Last edited by lisinopril; 04-05-2013 at 7:28 AM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:55 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2016, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.