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Old 03-05-2013, 9:37 AM
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This is my first year turkey hunting I'm going to be taking my 11 year old daughter with me as well. Im trying to decide on what type of blind I should get. Im going to be hunting public lands so its something that I'll be packing in each time, and since Im going with my daughter I'll be packing the majority of the gear.

Since Im gearing up for the first time, Im also purchasing calls, decoys more cammo clothing and other gear. This is limiting me on how much I can spend on a blind, I was just thinking of buying the Stakeout blind cover since its light and cheap or is it better to just invest in a self standing popup blind?

any recommendations for a good box call?
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If you buy a pop up blind ditch the camo gear and just wear dark clothing.
Likewise ditch the turkey vest and just carry a sling bag, backpack, whatever to keep your gear organized in your blind.

I have a heavy blind that is very spacious but packing it sucks. It's not for mobile hunting, it's for setting up a few days before you intend to shoot something. If I intend to be really mobile for turkeys I wear camo and tuck in behind a bush if I can, or bring a piece of camo mesh and I can stake between two garden stakes to act as a camo wall in front of me. After buying the material I figured out it would be cheaper to get one of the premaid ones like http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunti...3Bcat104365080, or http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunti...3Bcat104365080 or http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunti...3Bcat104365080

With the daughter coming along though I think you would do well to find a large, light, pop up like http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunti...3Bcat104365080 or http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunti...3Bcat104365080

Bow hunting or shotgun? Part of the reason I chose the blind I did is because I can draw a bow in it. If your'e using a shotgun you don't need quite as much space.
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Also, box calls are pretty easy to use but harder to pack. Slates are a bit harder to use but easier to pack, and mouth calls are the hardest to use but definitely the easiest to pack. Also, with mouth calls you don't have to put the call down before you pick up your gun or bow.
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You badly need to put her in for the California Waterfowl Junior hunts.....they are due in 10 days. They cost 4 bucks each but they are almost a guarantee hunt and juniors have a pretty high rate of success for being drawn. Also the DFG has hunts to apply for as well.

Here's the link to California Waterfowl
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Lastly....public land turkey hunting is extremely tough for even the most experienced. You badly need to go with someone who has a little know how. Turkeys are nothing compared to ducks. They are very tough to hunt. On public land blinds are a big pain and IMO I can lean up against a tree and some brush and disappear....blinds arent as easy. But you have your daughter so keeping her still will be hard enough that is why a blind would be good. I bought a cheap little one from Tractor supply. It's light and easy to move and use it from time to time but on private land which is much different than public.

Your best bet is apply for those hunts and learn a little from the guides. Watch videos.

PM me for more stuff....I may have an oppurtunity for you and your daughter but it will be later in the season.

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thanks, we will be shotgun hunting. I just took the DFG advance hunting class on turkeys, it was pretty helpful they suggested using the Box Calls for calling the birds in from far away and then using the slate call for bringing them in close. I like those popup blinds doesn't seem too difficult but is it small for two people?
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thanks, we will be shotgun hunting. I just took the DFG advance hunting class on turkeys, it was pretty helpful they suggested using the Box Calls for calling the birds in from far away and then using the slate call for bringing them in close. I like those popup blinds doesn't seem too difficult but is it small for two people?
Good that class should be good.....lots of good info.....different calls work at different times.....don't think of calls as one works for distance and up close....they work differently on every bird. Every bird likes a certain call. I've had gobblers that would only come in to a box and some liked my mouth calling. I prefer mouth calling but that takes time to learn. But sometimes they just don't like the variety of mouth calls I have and only like the old nasty box or slate. Variety is key...find one that works use it. But like I said every bird is different.

Pop ups will be fine for you and your daughter. I use one and seat two adults all the time. It's tight but works. Don't depend on the blind to cover movement....you still need to be very still. They will still be able to see head turns and such. You need to be still unless you have the shoot through windows which are nice.

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@jmonte35 I already registered for all the DFG drawings but thanks for the tip on the CWF ones. I just applied for 4 of the junior hunts for my daughter and 4 of the adult ones for myself ;-) thanks for the tips on the blinds, my daughters not too fidgety but the popup might be a good idea, maybe I'll take her to BassPro this weekend to check them out, shes been begging me to take her there.
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@jmonte35 I already registered for all the DFG drawings but thanks for the tip on the CWF ones. I just applied for 4 of the junior hunts for my daughter and 4 of the adult ones for myself ;-) thanks for the tips on the blinds, my daughters not too fidgety but the popup might be a good idea, maybe I'll take her to BassPro this weekend to check them out, shes been begging me to take her there.
Not too fidgety means shes fidgety....know what I mean?..........turkey hunting requires you to be more still than any other animal. I've taken many guys out that are seasoned hunters and think that slight movements are ok. If you can see a bird I don't even blink....seriously they have that good of eyesight. You can't raise your gun up until they get behind something...so many little subtle things about turkey hunting. It's fairly easy to get em to about 100 yds but they are very alert to any movement inside that.
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Ive never used a blind I just hide behind stuff. A blind wouldnt be bad if you are hunting a buddys orchard but on public I would try and stay mobile. If you hear one gobble a mile away I wouldnt count on calling it to your blind without a half dozen guys intercepting it. Ive taken some big birds off of BLM but you really need to find a spot nobody is hunting.

I usualy just slowly walk around and call. When its slow I glass for sheds and look for arrowheads while calling. guess it depends on your daughter wether she wants to sit or walk. Nice thing about the blind is she could hopefuly see it strutting and gobbling before she smokes it. Sometimes when your hiding behind a bush or log you miss part of the show.
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lol Ive hunted turkeys for close to 30 years and ive personaly killed over 100 and called in quite a few for other people too. Ive changed my hunting techniques all over the place so dont be surprised if in this thread I say ive never used a blind. But two years from now ill be saying you need a blind a blind is the only way. lol
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lol Ive hunted turkeys for close to 30 years and ive personaly killed over 100 and called in quite a few for other people too. Ive changed my hunting techniques all over the place so dont be surprised if in this thread I say ive never used a blind. But two years from now ill be saying you need a blind a blind is the only way. lol
The birds change and so does the smart hunter. What works one season might not work the next.
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lol Ive hunted turkeys for close to 30 years and ive personaly killed over 100 and called in quite a few for other people too. Ive changed my hunting techniques all over the place so dont be surprised if in this thread I say ive never used a blind. But two years from now ill be saying you need a blind a blind is the only way. lol
, He calls em in close and I'm not talking the dumb birds. I'm talking birds that try to wind ya!

For the OP. Nothing is really set in stone. I've killed 4 (3 in the last 2 years and they were all on private) and about the only constant is that public birds can be one of the hardest things out there while private birds can be about as dumb as Kelly Bundy was in Married with Children.

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Thanks for all the good advice, thinking about getting this blind Trekker T2000. How does a shootthrough screen work?
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Thanks for all the good advice, thinking about getting this blind Trekker T2000. How does a shootthrough screen work?
Not to be an butthead newb but...really....how does a shootthrough screen work????.......Ummm...you shoot trough it. It's just a thin see through material that covers the windows so it disguises your movement while still being able to make a shot.

That blind will work.
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Thanks for all the good advice, thinking about getting this blind Trekker T2000. How does a shootthrough screen work?
It's a light mesh that it easy to see through from the inside (where it's dark and you are close to the holes) and hard to see through from far away where it's light. You really do simply shoot through it. They are replaceable and you can usually buy the replacements from the manufacturer.

For turkeys you don't need them, turkeys don't seem to spook on the big black hole that is presented by an open blind window. Just keep the windows closest to the sun closed and the opposite ones open. The idea is to make the inside of the blind a black hole so that while you are wearing black clothing your movements will be disguised.

As long as you and your daughter can comfortably sit on whatever stools you bring AND maneuver a shotgun, you'll be good to go. Short barrels and tight chokes are nice for this sort of thing but not necessary.

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Ok more questions on gear, when I went to the DFG turkey hunting clinic they suggested when hunting on public lands I don't use decoys they seem to think that carrying and setting decoys make it more dangerous to get shot by other hunters. Do you guys believe in this or is this the DFG being overly cautious and paranoid?
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Ok more questions on gear, when I went to the DFG turkey hunting clinic they suggested when hunting on public lands I don't use decoys they seem to think that carrying and setting decoys make it more dangerous to get shot by other hunters. Do you guys believe in this or is this the DFG being overly cautious and paranoid?
Perhaps you should think about that for a minute or two and think of the possibilities of this while being in a BLIND with your DAUGHTER.
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Throw a hunter orange vest on the turkey decoy when you are moving.

Likewise, if you're walking around and calling for turkeys (another no-no according to the DFG), wear orange, something you can take off easily.
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Throw a hunter orange vest on the turkey decoy when you are moving.

Likewise, if you're walking around and calling for turkeys (another no-no according to the DFG), wear orange, something you can take off easily.
Orange? While turkey hunting?

I think he is implying that on public land decoys could bring shots your way by other hunters, mistaking it for a turkey.
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I rarely use a decoy cause I hate carrying them. I can hide behind a log, rock , bush , etc and call them to within feet of me without a decoy.

Have you scouted? Do you have a spot?
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I rarely use a decoy cause I hate carrying them. I can hide behind a log, rock , bush , etc and call them to within feet of me without a decoy.

Have you scouted? Do you have a spot?
I don't have a spot yet, I working on some friends that have connection to private land. Im also looking for some suggestions for the JR hunt day on the 23rd, 24th. have any?
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I don't have a spot yet, I working on some friends that have connection to private land. Im also looking for some suggestions for the JR hunt day on the 23rd, 24th. have any?
Try the cache creek wildlife area. Lots of turkey. Large area including Lake and Colusa counties. Watch for snakes.
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Orange? While turkey hunting?

I think he is implying that on public land decoys could bring shots your way by other hunters, mistaking it for a turkey.

Yup, orange while turkey hunting; while moving.

The last thing I want is to be walking to my turkey ambush site through some low bushes carrying a turkey decoy and have some dude shoot at me. Likewise, I don't want to be looking like a camouflage woods ninja crawling through the bushes randomly clucking to see if anything is in earshot only to be located by another hunter that feels they don't need to positively identify their target.

Don't get me wrong, while I'm in my spot calling in turkeys I'm tucked away and camouflaged, but when I'm walking to or from my spot or carrying a decoy (all on public land) you bet your sweet butt I'm wearing something orange. On private land, not so much.

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Crow call for locating the birds and them set up your gear. I use a dek once and a while but when I do I use a jake some times the toms will stay out of range when you have a big Tom dek. Like was said before things change from hunt to hunt.

Don't over call less can be more and stay out late. I have killed a few around noon. And if nothing is working change it up you never know what will work.

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Crow call for locating the birds and them set up your gear. I use a dek once and a while but when I do I use a jake some times the toms will stay out of range when you have a big Tom dek. Like was said before things change from hunt to hunt.

Don't over call less can be more and stay out late. I have killed a few around noon. And if nothing is working change it up you never know what will work.

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I kill most of mine in the afternoon.
As long as the hens have left the gobs and are sitting, you can call a gob and more than likely at least a pair. Mine usually come in 3's?

The guys that don't wait it out, don't kill birds.
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As long as the hens have left the gobs and are sitting, you can call a gob and more than likely at least a pair. Mine usually come in 3's?

The guys that don't wait it out, don't kill birds.
Yeah ive called in a lot of threes also. Last year was a weird year had crappy luck calling in singles but had birds leave big flocks to come. Its usualy the opposite.
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I also throw on something orange when I'm carrying a dead bird back too. Basically any time I don't feel like I need to be sneaky.
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Call the DFW turkey biologist for info.
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I'd just take that shoot through mesh off the blind, it's a PITA. Whatever you do don't shoot expandable broadheads or a shotgun through it, it'll catch the blind on fire.

DFG's Guide To Turkey Hunting

https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.a...cumentID=23229

Here's our Turkey Hunting page for CA.

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If you're a bowhunter

http://www.jesseshunting.com/bowhunting-wild-turkeys
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Got my Box Call yesterday and did a little testing of it outside, a little while later my daughter came home from school and we went outside to practice the call and in our yard was a turkey that must have came to my earlier call.

My daughter and I are excited. Today on the way to school she asked me if we were going to have better success than duck hunting (lots of fun but few ducks) I said Probably not but does it matter, she said Nope just getting out will be fun.
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That's a real good sign!!
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You have headnets and camo everything?
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"You have headnets and camo everything?"

Good question. I have Cammo everything but plain green army pants does it matter if I am using a pop up blind?
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Good question. I have Cammo everything but plain green army pants does it matter if I am using a pop up blind?
I wouldnt limit myself to just the blind. Maybe you can hear one 400 or 500 yards away gobbling all day and he wont come. You mite want to try and sneak to within 70 or 80 yards and call to bring him in. Or you mite get tired of sitting in that thing and want to stretch your legs. With the blind you are only going to be able to call to one small area. You could hike around and call into 50 areas the same size in a day which would increase your odds of killing one 50 times.

I think blinds are great if you know where birds are and nobody else is hunting them. But i just dont know about public land its tough.

The green pants should be fine.
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This is what i wear unless its super cold. There is a headnet tucked under my hat that i pull down when they get close. I just take cover behind a bush and call them right to me no blind or decoy


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Good question. I have Cammo everything but plain green army pants does it matter if I am using a pop up blind?
If you're going to stay in the blind, wear black.
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My preference is to wear the 3D ghille type suits that bass pro makes on the cheap. They also used to have this nice small folding chair with a shoulder strap. Take a few mouth calls and I'm good to go. Once you start bringing blinds, etc you have to take it all down to move.

As far as guns go I just use an old 870. Sit up against free and work my calls with the gun in both hands... With mouth calls you don't need a steady grip and can get into the action faster.
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