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Old 04-17-2013, 4:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Omil View Post
I did a few PPT's @ Turners in Torrance without any problems before.

To the OP', perhaps their corporate could chime-in on this matter, for future references !
Brian-

Firstly, we appreciate that you brought this to us.

Secondly, from what you’ve told me I agree that you have what you needed to proceed. You have CA HG residency in the form of the utility bill and you can use your EDD document to satisfy ATF’s requirement of having a govt document to update/correct your CDL since you haven’t updated that. (Everyone tends to call that latter requirement residency but it’s really not; it’s just a Federal requirement when people don’t abide by state law and update their CDL within the time period dictated by the individual states.)

And, in talking with the our Director of Store Sales/Management, he also agrees that you were set and ready to go and he’s had prior conversation with the folks in the store that a combination of documents similar to yours not only works, but we take it every day for regular sales and PPT’s. I’ll be talking to the store manager today and figure out who or what got this fouled up, but we’ll follow through. Lastly, we understand why you’re upset but there is no company policy nor a store policy to not do PPT’s. These days, a PPT is much faster in our stores than it was in the past, so any manager giving resistance to a PPT is off track and we’ll deal with it.

Lastly just as an aside, it looks like the Dems (and likely with input from DOJ) are going to be looking harder at PPT’s from the seller standpoint with regards to the phrase “infrequent” but among all of the pending legislation out there is one that is getting overlooked- AB 740- that would more narrowly define the phrase infrequent to include all firearms not just handguns. Currently they say that us gun guys (speaking as an individual not a dealer) can transfer less than 6 handguns a year for those transfers be considered infrequent- AB 740 would apply to all transfers. As if we need this on top of everything else that is moving through Sacramento…. See an excerpt from AB-740 below.

Again, thanks for bringing this to us; we’ll get with the store and deal with whatever the issue is.


Bill Ortiz
Vice President of Operations


11738 San Marino St. Suite A
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730

Office (909) 923-3009


AB 740, as amended, Alejo. Firearms.

….Existing law provides that certain prohibitions on the transfer of firearms do not apply if the transfer is among other things, infrequent. Existing law defines “infrequent” for these purposes as less than 6 transactions per calendar year for handguns, and occasional and without regularity for firearms other than handguns. Existing law defines “transaction” for these purposes as a single sale, lease, or transfer of any number of handguns. This bill would define “infrequent” for purposes of these provisions as less than 5 6 firearms transactions per calendar year. The bill would revise the definition of “transaction” for these purposes to mean a single sale, lease, or transfer of any number of firearms.