The limits of rimfire?
With all the new restrictions on centerfire rifles coming down the pipe I was wondering how bad *** could you make a rimfire cartridge? I know nothing of reloading but I'm curious if a large population of people where willing to pay .50 cents a round for instance what are the limitations of the rimfire design and costs? How close could we get to .223 ballistics?
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A .22 magnum is a zippy little round and will amaze some people.
Limitations are the wind speed, but we have made kills on rabbits out to 300 yards. Not a lot but we have done it. |
Rimfire cartridges have been around for many decades, in many different calibers. A simple internet search should be able to provide you with some options.
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Did a google search. Results were kinda vague. Sorry, .22lr is great but what can rimfire really do? Anything fast like a .17 with more weight?
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It will deter an attacker (real experience), and really piss off a Bear. Anything in between is a crap shoot.
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I think CA may make a largebore rim fire a marketable cartridge. It would have to be similar to the 5.7x28 though so that rifle and pistol types could use the same round.
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The 5.7x28 was actually the kinda round I was wishing for in rimfire.
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Shot placement is still king
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There are a couple of new rimfire rounds comming out and the re introduction of the 5mm remington. All of them are at the lower end of 223 bulistics. 17 winchester rimfire is the newest. DR
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I have no problem killing small game at 200 yards with my 17hmr....
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Good video...and kind of funny too
A few gems:
- one thing we've gathered here is a couple things... - ...it will hurt your azz. - if you get a hole in you that you weren't born with, you will die :D |
There is a big limitation on rimfire due to the strength of the casing around the rim. This limits pressure.
You can get pretty decent performance with some of the rimfire rounds out there... but nothing approaching moderate centerfire loads. Also the obvious downside is that you cant reload rimfire. As to the legislation and what you can/cant have/lethality... perhaps you should look at a modern black powder with sabot hunting rounds. I do expect it to pack a lot more wallop at distance than a rimfire. And you can reload it cheaply (except the price of the sabots) |
The most powerful rimfire round on the market currently is the 17 Winchester Supermag. It has 400 ft/lbs at the muzzle.
If a semi auto platform could be made that shot this round, think dedicated AR15 upper, it would be a potent gun for a rimfire at least. |
Tagged. I'm interested!
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Israel snipers use .22lr to quietly kill.
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Keep in mind .22s,l,LR are loaded with LEAD bullets and new laws are going to be coming down the liberal pipeline restricting shooting in public places (Public Ranges) soon.
Hunting with a .22 is now out. |
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Old story, but I never seen it disputed for accuracy, except I did read same account, where she fired up to 6-8 rounds, reloading, one after another, from the single shot .22 LR rifle, possibly Stevens Favorite.
.22 LR FTW. :D http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/l...pse68c890c.jpg Quote:
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The 22lr can bring down just about any game in north America. Saying that, as with any other round, shot placement is the key along with good tracking skills, since larger game may travel a ways before bleeding out. During the depression my father told us that him and his older brother fed an entire family of 12 with a single shot .22 and 12 gauge loaded with bird shot (and the occasional cut shell). If you don't know what a shotgun cut shell is, its a real old way to turn bird shot into a self-contained deer slug, but many say its not safe is not recommended.
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My recollection is that the Martini-Henry is rimfire.
How about a .557 rimfire? Is that good enough? |
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Wow...cut shells...learned something new there,never heard of them
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What about a non-traditional rimfire? It uses a standard boxer primer, offset in the case so now itis no longer centerfire.
The sticking point is indexing the primers, but it's not insurmountable. We're making a new cartridge and gun, so we can make changes from tradition. |
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The original Henry rifle used a .44cal rimfire that was good for >1000fps with a 200gr LRN. Rimfire cases can handle pretty impressive pressures, some up around 30,000+psi.
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