Marin
 

UPDATE: the Marin sheriff attempted to intervene to appeal the ruling of the 3-judge panel in Peruta:
http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=905433

Anyone who gets denied in Marin Co (either by a city's PD or by the Sheriff's Office), and wants to fight it should read the following quote from my ("Paladin") post in the Monterey Co thread. (There they accept SD as GC, but push the GMC requirement.) The 14th Amendment Equal Protection applies to ALL aspects of the application process, not just GC and GMC.

Marin Specific PDF From Calguns Foundation

Here

States "contact with applicant's family, relatives, friends, associates and employer."

PutPut is now immortal.:party:

Local CCW Policy, Guidelines & Forms:

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The link has been fixed, try and download it again. Post back in here and let me know if it works for you now.

I can downlaod and save it, it comes up with an encryption error when trying to open in a web browser window.

Marin GC statements are available Here

"carries large amounts of cash in shady neighborhood" Hmmmm, I thought we were supposed to just hire an armored car service. LOL!

That's a whole lot of cash, gems, retired _____, gang death threats and prosecutors. :eek:

Clearly the path to a CCW in Marin is to withdraw your entire life savings every evening, drive around shady parts of town, and deposit it the next morning.

My *guess* w/a lot of anti Bay Area counties is if a buddy/financial supporter of a sheriff makes the claim of having to carry large amounts of cash due to their job, the sheriff accepts it and issues a CCW.

If Joe Average makes that claim, the sheriff requires proof of the claim, investigates it, and if the claim is true, tells Joe to require direct deposits from customers or other work around (armor car service), and doesn't issue a CCW. :mad:

There it is. About the 10th page.

"I am requesting a license to carry a concealed weapon based primarily on personal safety and self-defense grounds and for the security and welfare of my family."

Snap! Has a calgunner applied using "self protection" to this county?

I think we're waiting for the green light. I'm guessing that this will take some litigation. I hope not but, we'll see...

Keep your powder dry and remain patient...

i think you are wrong.

he is a deputy district attorney so he gets special treatment, you don't.;)

"Retired ________. He is entitled a ccw under Ca law"

which position could that be?
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"he now works as a psychologist and appear to be well adjusted, stable and a productive member of society"

i'm not a psychologist but i am adjusted, stable, and pay my taxes every year. will i qualify?
can't someone say the same thing? ;)

Could be a former LEO who qualifies under 18 USC §926B.

I know this isn't ALCO, but here is one from ALCO, part 2, page 74:

This is a direct and written admission that a retired LEO doesn't necessarily have to have that compelling need for a CCW just because they are a retired LEO. This doesn't mean that I don't support his need or want for a CCW, but it seems that with my compelling need being more than his, and my (presumed) denial, and with his approval in the same department (not necessarily the approval, itself) wouldn't stand the test of muster in court, but I could be wrong... :(

Erik.

Equal protection... He's no better than me or you...

^^+10⁹⁹∞

And this is along the lines we are going to be seeing after certain court cases are either settled or won when it goes all the way through. This is also why we have these docs.

Erik.

listening and waiting

Sounds to me like the guy is a drug dealer!;)

Is it me, or did someone from the Sheriff's office fill out the majority of the GC statements? The handwriting is the same and they are not written in the first person "Mr Jones wants a permit because".

If I were a resident, could I get one of the deputies to write MY GC statement?

As far as i know... no one in marin can get one

Looks to me like those are from the CCW interviews, not the submitted Good Cause statements.

Tim

PS 9mm vs Bears at Lake Tahoe... LOL

It's an unpleasant reality with the likes of an anti like Sheriff Doyle.

Good cause statement: "I work in Oakland at my family business and have been assaulted and raped on different occasions."

Sheriff's reply to person he doesn't know: "Well then call the cops next time it happens, better yet don't go to Oakland."

It is funny that a county that derives so much self-satisfaction from its progressive politics embraces a feudalistic gun control policy without a second thought.

Marin County Good Cause statements are now available http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/res...tatements.html

I thought the one about the Chief in SF and the guy being a war vet killing the Vietcong was rather odd.

Also page 49 and 51 are rather "general" self defense reasons. One basically says he is in a bad neighborhood and the other states that she is a woman and likes to hike.

Anyone tried lately?

why does all these links say error not found?

alright well marin folk, looks like we might be able to get one after all. so who knows who to go to for training

How did you come to that conclusion? Bullseye in san rafael has a multi-state ccw course, I wonder if that would count? However based on my interactions with the people there who claim to be instructors and the things I have heard them tell people I would be better off getting all my training on youtube from the guys at carnik con.

but seriously, did you come across some new info about getting a CCW in marin?

oh man prepare to be really excited.

first some basic background as I don't know what you know or not, if you are more knowledgeable of CCW skip to the next paragraph. Previously the county sheriff was in charge of issuing CCWs and it required that along with training, good moral character, and a good clause/ a specific reason why you need a concealed weapon were the requirements to obtain a CCW permit. The marin county sheriff while claiming to be pro 2A was very anti pro 2A and only approved 22 permits thus far mainly to judges, district attorneys and anyone else he likes with some political power. He denied the others by claiming that their good clause statements weren't good enough to want to protect their lives. For instance a good clause statement saying personal protection wasn't a good enough reason.

Peruta vs San Diego was a court case claiming it is unconstitutional to deny someone if they want a CCW for personal protection essentially trying to get rid of the good clause part of the CCW process. As of now that case is won by peruta and California will be a shall issue state! Unless the case is reheard by the 9th circuit court which it has already denied one appeal for a rehearing, and achieving the rehearing off the second appeal is unlikely, but possible. It could also go to the US supreme court. Again I believe unlikely, however there is still the slim chance.

So right now I am trying to get ahead of the rush for classes so I can be towards the front of the line with my paperwork and not add another year or two until I can legally exercise my 2A rights in public.

there are several threads that talk about it on this website with more information, but from what I understand this is all correct. Read those threads if you like but you're going to have to weed through a bunch of comments

So, did something change lately because this has been known for a while now?
I thought we were still waiting on an appeal or something.

they denied the appeal as of yesterday. we are now waiting to see what the next defensive steps for Harris are but it looks less likely as a win for her

Hey would a death threat by a rich guy saying he's going to get me in my alleyway some night for sleeping with his ex wife, that I showed to the cops a few years ago work in a good cause statement? :)

in marin under current laws, i doubt it. the point of the lawsuit is that you don't need a good clause though