FFL w/ lg cap mag permit sales
I have a few questions regarding sales of large capacity magazines, I am an FFL who just got my large capacity mag permit.
Can I sell out of state to residents of that state if its legal for them to own in that state? What documentation is needed to justify sales like above and also as rebuild kits, mags converted to 10/30 type mags and of course to LEOs? Thanks, this stuff is very confusing at times and I want to make sure I'm doing it right. |
You can sell the magazines to anyone if it is legal, so either out of state (depending on the state) or if the person in CA is exempt.
You need to log the magazines, so if you convert it to a 10 round magazine, you document that. If you sell it to someone who is exempt, you list who you sold it to. I would keep proof that the person is exempt for your own protection. Not that it is accurate, but I was told that a CA FFL can not take apart a magazine to make it a parts kit. If you log the magazine in, then you would have to document that you took it apart, which means that there is a record of this. I don't know of any CA PC which would prevent that though. |
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As I said, it is what the DOJ said and there could be some issues with it. If you want to do it and take the risk, that is fine, but people should be aware that it could be a concern. You don't know that they won't do anything. Yes, if you read the law, it seems that it is exempt if the FFL sells it. All of that does not mean that the DOJ will not harass you or deny you the permit next year.
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Yes, selling them to people is a much different can of worms and clearly I am in no hurry to do that either. However, it might be fun if I had some large caps come December. |
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Why would a FFL or anyone not be able to disassemble a magazine into parts? |
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The issue is that if you receive a magazine, you need to log it, then there is the issue of what you did with it. |
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Ok, but there is nothing that says i cant disassemble a magazine into parts and sell the parts. That was my question.
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You mean other than the CA DOJ saying that you can't?
I don't know of anything, but how you log it could be an issue. |
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When you call them, they say that.
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i am confused how the law actually works as there seems to be no "prohibited buyers" other than felons
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I will start researching this and post if I find anything.
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is it illegal for a ffl with a large capacaity permit to sell to any californian?
i cannot see the law that would be broken its not illegal to buy them and its only legal to sell them with the permit |
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My reading of the law, which conflicts with the CA DOJ view of the law, is that a person license under the CA PC as a FFL (there are specifics code section) is not restricted in who they can buy or sell the so-called large capacity magazines to or from, so my reading of the CA PC is that it is not illegal for a FFL to sell magazines to anyone without restrictions. When I asked the CA DOJ about this, the person I was talking to got very upset, more so than I have ever seen. I suspect he knew the truth, but could not admit it and got somewhat trapped and the result was his getting upset so as he did not have to answer anything further. Quote:
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With all that said, I would not suggest any FFL do that since problems might occur. On the other hand, if you know of someone with a lot of money and you know of a person who is willing to make money and perhaps spend some time in jail and deal with court cases and lawsuits, then I have an idea to make a lot of money with this. |
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