El Dorado
UPDATE (2015 Feb 05):
Per posts #380 and #381, it looks like mere "self-defense" is being accepted by the sheriff as sufficient Good Cause, therefore I'm changing the title of this thread to read "Time to Apply!!!" If anyone uses "self-defense" as their GC and gets denied for lack of or insufficient GC, and gets denied for lack of or insufficient GC, PM a Moderator listed at the bottom of this forum. El Dorado SO's CCW application instructions & form are linked at: http://www.edcgov.us/Sheriff/Forms.aspx (end of update) El Dorado County CCW Policy, Guidelines and Forms can be found Here |
CCW Friendly?
I will be moving from San Francisco to El Dorado county soon. Is El Dorado a CCW friendly county? Are they reasonable about giving out permits?
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Both of the candidates for El Dorado County sheriff promised to be more CCW friendly. D'Agostini promised self-defense equals good cause and Therkildson promised to streamline the process (whatever that means).
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D'Agostini is backed by the NRA. The other canidate is not. Draw your own conclusions.
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Looking at the current support it looks like by the end of the day D'Agostini will be our Sheriff! I'll be applying for mine as soon as he takes office.
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I have spoken with D'Agostini on three occassions. He is the real deal, he is the superior pro-gun candidate, and he's shown a willingess to annihilate all unlawful and illlegal requirements that Sheriff Jeff Neves/Fred Kollar continues to enforce, and Therkildsen seems to be squishy on. |
El Dorado County elections is still counting the "vote by mail" ballots. The spread between Sheriff D and Sherrif T is growing in D's favor. Sheriff D will be as close to shall issue and "personal protection" good cause as we can get without the state becoming shall issue. Apply for your ccw after D takes office.
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I also have spoken to our new Sheriff and he said he will remove the need for 3 character letters and that self defense is good cause.
We have a lot of rural roads that we travel at night plus I'm a competitive shooter that carries guns all the time, so I think I will apply after Mr. D'Agostini takes office and changes the SO policy. It's interesting that in talking with some business owners in Placerville they would like to apply for permits, but found it was too onerous in the past. Since Mr. D'Agostini wants to bring back a community based law enforcement policy this may go a long way in bringing the community back to support the SO. |
Anyone know when the new sheriff takes office?
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They are supposed to validate the vote count this Friday, then he would be sworn in January 11th.
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Hang tight folks. Policy is being massively overhauled. I am a resident and instructor in El Dorado and you all will pleased with the final outcome. Stay tuned...
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Keep us posted Socom.
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I currently live in Sacramento, but I will be moving to El Dorado County next year. If I get my CCW for Sacramento will I need to re-apply in El Dorado once I move, or can I wait for it to expire before I apply again in El Dorado Co. I don't really want to pay the fees twice.
Or should I just wait until I move? |
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So what is the process like right now?
When should we expect the changes that will make El Dorado Co. virtual shall issue? Will there be a new process that is more streamlined? |
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Inauguration will be early January. Process will be much simpler. Feel free to PM me if you need any info on the process or training. I am a CCW instructor here in ED county.
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We're in direct contact with the sheriff-elect and will be posting all of the details here when he's completed the reforms.
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Sheriff D'Agostini recently held a meeting with several approved CCW Instructors. He asked for our input regarding removing restrictions that El Dorado County had on their CCW's and revising the policy in any way that would make it more common sense oriented. For example, we discussed doing away with the restriction that makes El Dorado County issued permits invalid outside of CA. We talked about allowing 5 guns on the permit instead of only 3 (he wanted to allow any gun that you legally own but, he has to list every approved gun on the actual permit and 5 seemed to be the maximum that would fit). We also concluded that the new permits would be on a card similar to a driver's license or credit card rather than a piece of paper.
Throughout the meeting we discussed many other issues. It was very constructive. Sheriff D'Agostini is certainly CCW friendly and a very open individual. |
The recent news sounds good. Is Jan 11 the inauguration day, as opposed to Jan 3 or 4 like most other offices? I couldn't find the date on the net.... I have my app filled out, just waiting to send it in....
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He asked me to request that everyone NOT turn in their applications all at once. It will cause everbody's process to be drastically delayed and he wants to try to avoid that. |
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SSNs 0000-0999 apply immediately SSNs 1000-1999 apply in 2 weeks SSNs 2000-2999 apply in 4 weeks etc until all have applied. Granted, this would be on the honor system, but it might help maintain relations with his office. Just an idea. . |
New process = New Forms?
If there will be a new, modified process for CCW applications (as is strongly suggested by the posts here in this thread), will there be new application Forms as well? Or should we use the old forms? If the old forms, how will we know what parts of the forms to ignore if no longer needed, etc.?
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This is very exciting. I'm in no rush, I mean the sooner the better, but we've all waited for these changes for many years. I never thought that CA gun owners would be making this kind of headway in the first place. Thank you Wildhawker and all others that have helped us get to this point, and thank you for keeping us informed.
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El Dorado residents should especially thank Gray Peterson, a fellow 2A warrior hailing from Washington (state).
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The main change in the process will be quite simply that you won't need some big elaborate explanation for your good cause statement. Sheriff D'Agostini has made it pretty clear that "self defense" is a good enough reason in his book for you to qualify for a CCW (of course along with the absence of any disqualifying criminal or mental history). |
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ccwtrainer...do you know if they will be eliminating the 3 character letters? |
Swearing in of our new Sheriff
I just got this in an email from our local gun club:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJccz...layer_embedded Listen to his message towards the end of the video. Congratulations Sheriff John D'Agostini !! |
Spoke to EDC Sheriff Office, D'Agostini does not take office until the 11th but was sworn in on 1/3.
I plan on dropping my paperwork next week :) |
CCW - El Dorado County
Called yesterday and setup my first interview (turning in the application with EDC Records.) I will be meeting with her tuesday to review the application and start the process.
I am using the standard DOJ CCW forum and will be using Personal Defense as my justification. Wish me luck! |
Please do keep us posted on the detailed progress of your application.
Sheriff D'Agostini campaigned heavily on his support for CCW, and the whole process should be smooth sailing for you. Best of Luck. |
Yes I would like to know as well. I am still waiting to see him change the ccw requirements on the Sheriff internet site.
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You will have no problems whatsoever, of course provided that you don't have any obvious disqualifying factors. Sheriff D'Agostini is a very stand up guy and he will certainly live up to his word. In fact I just spoke with him earlier today. You couldn't have a better man in that office. |
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I really see Sheriff D'Agostini making every effort he can to make the CCW process as open as possible. I hope this helps. |
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Looks like the commitee did a good job. Did the concept of "good moral character" get defined yet?
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Dexter,
Whom did you call to set up the appointment? I mailed my application last week and have not received a call back, nor was I able to find any updated info on the county website last time I looked. Thanks. |
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