Father to son interfamillial out of state handgun transfer
Need to find a ffl in northern California for a interfamillial transfer. Hopefully in the redding or Susanville areas. My local guy isn't sure how to do one so I need to find someone who does.
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DOJ websit. Theres a form you fill out and send $19
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Look up "Rudolph the Red". Jim is in Redding now and will take great care of you.
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Even the telephone-answerers at CA-DOJ get that wrong nearly every time; Federal law requires the FFL for an interstate transfer - the CA form has no use for that situation. |
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I have a similar twist to this question that I don't think has been asked yet. I have done a bunch of searching.
Both my grandfather and father want to give me a couple handguns. They reside in a state where they can just hand me the gun and I reside in CA. Can they legally give me the guns and I just bring them back in the car or checked on the plane? If so what do I have to do when I get here? |
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Thank you very much for your answer Jack. I really appreciate it.
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I have a question on this type of thing.
My Dad and I lived together for a few years and we were both into gun and 2 years back he moved up to CO and left a few of his pistols here in my safe. Recentaly I asked if you wanted them back and he said I should keep them. So they are here in CA and he is in CO but I have the guns. What would be the correct way to get them pushed over to my name? Any help would be awesome. I want to do things the right way to avoid any issues. |
The right way is to do the transfer through a FFL since you are now residents of different states. If the transfer was done before he moved then the intrafamilial form could have been used.
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I just went to an FFL in La Mesa (Fine Firearms) to re-inquire about this same issue. After reading through the other posts and the wiki, I explained what I would like to do while I was there. The group was very helpful, and one called DoJ while I was there (they were unaware of how to do the interstate intrafamily transfer as well, at least for off-roster firearms). However, they were very much willing to help, and were also interested in the legalities.
This is what CADOJ said today: 1) The note must be there from appropriate family member saying they were giving the firearm to me as a gift (in this case, my father). 2) The firearm must ship with a 10 round mag (the one I'm getting has larger mags) 3) For an OFF-ROSTER gun: When the DROS gets filled out... this was the confusing part. The wiki currently says to write the exception as "27870PC intrafamily transfer". The DoJ said that when the FFL does the DROS, they need to transfer the gun using Pawn/return/consignment. I don't know what that looks like on the computer form. I'm sure an FFL here could clear that up a little 4) Everything else standard rules. |
Not quite correct, unless they changed things. The DROS button to use is the Curio, Relic, Exempt. It is not a return to owner.
There is an image somewhere of the DROS screen. I don't have the Windoze machine up right now to show you what it looks like. It does not require 10 rounds magazines, but it can not have magazines with a capacity over 10 rounds, meaning no magazine are fine, as long as you have a magazine to do the HSC safety demo with. |
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And you're saying the handgun doesn't have to ship with a magazine at all? That's the first time I've ever heard that. Gotta love that not only are the laws excessive, but crazy confusing. |
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Since it is exempt, that is the one that should be used. Then again, there is a problem with the current DROS system in processing multiple C&R handguns if the person has a C&R FFL and CA DOJ COE (collector) since if you select "collector" for the waiting period, the system rejects the second firearm. You can re-enter it, but then you don't get the discount. I was told to use "30 day exemption", but that does not show the 10 day waiting period exemption. The DOJ does not want to put that in writing though. Quote:
What the law requires is that if you have to do the HSC safety demo, you need a magazine to do that, but there is no requirement that the magazine belong to the buyer and it is actually the case that the firearm used does not have to be the specific firearm is being transferred, an identical firearm can be used for the demo. |
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Good info here thanks... And tagged
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