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AceHound 02-22-2013 2:41 AM

Well regulated militia
 
Taking applications for well regulated militia.

BLM target practice shoot with:

1) AR-15, M16 rifle with 16", 20", 22", or 24" barrel
2) Side-arm pistol

PM picture of AR, brief introduction including age, profession, and reason for interest in forming well regulated militia.

Los Angeles area

mossy 02-22-2013 3:08 AM

seriously? hold on let me send you a picture of my tinfoil hat.

in before the move or lock.

GREASY357 02-22-2013 3:16 AM

IBTL please..

Carnivore 02-22-2013 5:17 AM

Oh ya IBTL...

That is what I want to do, send a complete stranger my picture, gun info and a bunch of other stuff. That seems legit.

mossy 02-22-2013 5:36 AM

guys it is completely legit there is no need for the fear or tin foil hats. i was called in for a follow up interview interview :) i even snapped a quick pic of the classy interview room just to show you it is safe. i cant talk about what happened or what questions were asked for obvious reasons, but i can tell you fun times were had promises were made and i will get a call in about a week. here is a pic of the interview room :D .
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...psa02dccd7.jpg

(if you dont recognize the room or couch you need to spend more time on the internet)

killmime1234 02-22-2013 5:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossy (Post 10608984)
guys it is completely legit there is no need for the fear or tin foil hats. i was called in for a follow up interview interview :) i even snapped a quick pic of the classy interview room just to show you it is safe. i cant talk about what happened or what questions were asked for obvious reasons, but i can tell you fun times were had promises were made and i will get a call in about a week. here is a pic of the interview room :D .
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...psa02dccd7.jpg

(if you dont recognize the room or couch you need to spend more time on the internet)

I don't recognize the couch, but I can only imagine dirty, dirty things have been done on it. :D

Also, IBTL.

mossy 02-22-2013 5:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killmime1234 (Post 10608990)
I don't recognize the couch, but I can only imagine dirty, dirty things have been done on it. :D

Also, IBTL.

it wasn't so bad, sure at first i was hesitant, but when they told me if i preformed well enough i could get a bump in pay i relaxed some. then they told me i could get a higher ranking position so i figured i am already in this situation i might as well go all the way and enjoy it.

NotEnufGarage 02-22-2013 5:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceHound (Post 10608658)
Taking applications for well regulated militia.

BLM target practice shoot with:

1) AR-15, M16 rifle with 16", 20", 22", or 24" barrel
2) Side-arm pistol

PM picture of AR, brief introduction including age, profession, and reason for interest in forming well regulated militia.

BATFE?

DOJ?

Which agency are you with and why are you trying to fill your arrest quota online?

Rude Robert 02-22-2013 5:57 AM

Im stupid, i dont know want the letter mean or the couch. yes, i don't spend much time on the net!

adrenaline 02-22-2013 6:06 AM

What's with all the stigma on militias on here. Isn't it constitutional?

pgg 02-22-2013 6:10 AM

Between this and the strip club extortion thread, you're off to an awesome start here.

12voltguy 02-22-2013 6:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnivore (Post 10608944)
Oh ya IBTL...

That is what I want to do, send a complete stranger my picture, gun info and a bunch of other stuff. That seems legit.

Join Date: Feb 2013:)

nicoroshi 02-22-2013 6:26 AM

No need to send you any pics or information.
ALL able bodied men (and in my belief women too) between the ages of 16-45 ARE the militia.
I fit that catagory :)
We will be ready when/if the time comes.

I also believe that a actually forming a group that calls itself a 'militia' might get you in a bit of hot water (please correct me if I am wrong).

Now if you want to plan a 'fun shoot' on BLM land we have a sub-forum for those kind of events.

Oh, and why only ARs?
At your 'fun shoot' I may just show up and outshoot you iron sighted with an AK :43:

OleCuss 02-22-2013 6:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrenaline (Post 10609039)
What's with all the stigma on militias on here. Isn't it constitutional?

I think you could make a good argument that the formation of local militiae is constitutionally protected.

But the government (in all its branches) doesn't think so.

Forming a militia which actually trains even a little as a proper militia should - can get you a nice little felony conviction.

And trying to recruit to a group and calling it a "militia" is an extremely bad idea - even if all you actually do is perfectly legal target shooting (or study religious parables).

Leave this one alone like it is a highly radioactive pit of poisonous snakes about to be hit by air strikes and artillery bombardment. Really, really bad idea.

adrenaline 02-22-2013 6:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicoroshi (Post 10609103)
I also believe that a actually forming a group that calls itself a 'militia' might get you in a bit of hot water (please correct me if I am wrong).

I know the OP is kinda of weird. But generally speaking, the mention of militia in this day and time has probably gotten a lot of stigma from bad people in the past.

Our founders spoke the word militia with not as much fear as I see here and elsewhere (even in the gun community).

Isn't it kind of on the same level with all the shootings and the right to bear arms. 20 years from now when someone mentioned they want a gun will our society snicker and say...."ohhhhh.....watch out for the Feds".

The whole reason we exist here (the gun community) is our founder's idea that the militia was important as a free state....that every citizen soldier (militia) had the right to keep and bear arms. Is it not?

The Second Amendment isn't a personal defense or hunting clause....is it?

Ryanorielly 02-22-2013 6:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossy (Post 10608984)
guys it is completely legit there is no need for the fear or tin foil hats. i was called in for a follow up interview interview :) i even snapped a quick pic of the classy interview room just to show you it is safe. i cant talk about what happened or what questions were asked for obvious reasons, but i can tell you fun times were had promises were made and i will get a call in about a week. here is a pic of the interview room :D .
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...psa02dccd7.jpg

(if you dont recognize the room or couch you need to spend more time on the internet)

I know where this is from ;)

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

adrenaline 02-22-2013 6:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OleCuss (Post 10609125)
I think you could make a good argument that the formation of local militiae is constitutionally protected.

But the government (in all its branches) doesn't think so.

Forming a militia which actually trains even a little as a proper militia should - can get you a nice little felony conviction.

If we don't change the heart's and minds, there are many things that the government doesn't think should be constitutionally protected that when we contribute to its evil stigma adds to the withering of constitutional rights.

Militia today, guns tomorrow, free speech.....??

OleCuss 02-22-2013 6:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrenaline (Post 10609130)
I know the OP is kinda of weird. But generally speaking, the mention of militia in this day and time has probably gotten a lot of stigma from bad people in the past.

Our founders spoke the word militia with not as much fear as I see here and elsewhere (even in the gun community).

Isn't it kind of on the same level with all the shootings and the right to bear arms. 20 years from now when someone mentioned they want a gun will our society snicker and say...."ohhhhh.....watch out for the Feds".

The whole reason we exist here (the gun community) is our founder's idea that the militia was important as a free state....that every citizen soldier (militia) had the right to keep and bear arms. Is it not?

The Second Amendment isn't a personal defense or hunting clause....is it?

The problem is that the state and federal government have effectively re-defined the concept of the militia. The courts have gone along with this (as has much of the pro-RKBA movement).

This pays some dividends to us and may eventually lead to robust militiae, but for right now the militia as understood by our founding fathers is effectively dead.

I'm one of the few on the forum who believe that the fundamental RKBA is tied to militia service and that the two cannot be reasonably de-linked.

But since the two have been unreasonably de-linked, the RKBA is now a very individual right and this should result in a more robust RKBA in the long run.

If it is anyone's strategy, I would agree strongly with the idea of first pursuing the concept of the individual RKBA and later resurrecting the idea of a robust and well-regulated militia. Both more likely to be successful and more likely to result in a full expression of our civil rights.

OleCuss 02-22-2013 6:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrenaline (Post 10609153)
If we don't change the heart's and minds, there are many things that the government doesn't think should be constitutionally protected that when we contribute to its evil stigma adds to the withering of constitutional rights.

Militia today, guns tomorrow, free speech.....??

Strategy, my friend. Strategy.

Our rights have been gradually eroded over the decades and centuries. We will only recover them gradually as well - unless there is an armed revolution (and that is a thought which is extremely unattractive).

Sabesimpson 02-22-2013 6:45 AM

Nice "casting" couch!

adrenaline 02-22-2013 6:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OleCuss (Post 10609173)
I'm one of the few on the forum who believe that the fundamental RKBA is tied to militia service and that the two cannot be reasonably de-linked.

Yup....I guess I'm in that minority.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OleCuss (Post 10609181)
Strategy, my friend. Strategy.

Our rights have been gradually eroded over the decades and centuries. We will only recover them gradually as well - unless there is an armed revolution (and that is a thought which is extremely unattractive).

+1. That's why I'm a big fan of Ron Paul spreading the pro-liberty message to the younger generations.



Hearts and minds. :D

iwindsurf78 02-22-2013 7:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabesimpson (Post 10609187)
Nice "casting" couch!

I don't know the room, but was thinking this same thing!!!

phrogg111 02-22-2013 9:05 AM

I think the funniest part about people wanting to form militias is that they don't realize that any well-regulated militia that ever existed was never guaranteed any rights by the 2nd amendment.

SgtDinosaur 02-22-2013 9:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrenaline (Post 10609039)
What's with all the stigma on militias on here. Isn't it constitutional?

I believe militias are illegal in California (big surprise).

P.Charm 02-22-2013 9:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossy (Post 10608984)
guys it is completely legit there is no need for the fear or tin foil hats. i was called in for a follow up interview interview :) i even snapped a quick pic of the classy interview room just to show you it is safe. i cant talk about what happened or what questions were asked for obvious reasons, but i can tell you fun times were had promises were made and i will get a call in about a week. here is a pic of the interview room :D .
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...psa02dccd7.jpg

(if you dont recognize the room or couch you need to spend more time on the internet)

There is no job. haha

JDoe 02-22-2013 9:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OleCuss (Post 10609125)
I think you could make a good argument that the formation of local militiae is constitutionally protected.

But the government (in all its branches) doesn't think so.

Forming a militia which actually trains even a little as a proper militia should - can get you a nice little felony conviction...


Serious question: Do you have a link for the law that makes training "as a proper militia" a crime?

nastyhabts26 02-22-2013 9:50 AM

Soooooooooo now you have to have an AR Rifle to be part of the "Well Regulated Militia"?
What if I only had an M-1 carbine or an SKS or AK, maybe an FAL?
We are not eligible to join?
Is there any caliber restrictions, does it have to be a .556 what if someone has an AR but it is in 300 black out or 6.8 creedmore are they good to go?

P.Charm 02-22-2013 9:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastyhabts26 (Post 10610549)
Soooooooooo now you have to have an AR Rifle to be part of the "Well Regulated Militia"?
What if I only had an M-1 carbine or an SKS or AK, maybe an FAL?
We are not eligible to join?
Is there any caliber restrictions, does it have to be a .556 what if someone has an AR but it is in 300 black out or 6.8 creedmore are they good to go?

hey, this militia is racist. I retract my application from this militia.

AragornElessar86 02-22-2013 9:59 AM

If you're antsy to join a militia then go here:
http://socal-militia.com/index.html

I can't find the state law regarding militia, but yeah, it's effectively illegal.

P.Charm 02-22-2013 10:00 AM

I'm a one man militia.

kalimus 02-22-2013 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killmime1234 (Post 10608990)
I don't recognize the couch, but I can only imagine dirty, dirty things have been done on it. :D

Also, IBTL.

It looks suspiciously like a couch one might use to... interview someone. Maybe someone like an actor. This interview might be an attempt to "cast" someone into a live action film. I wonder if there is a job waiting for the lucky interviewee....

P.Charm 02-22-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalimus (Post 10610649)
It looks suspiciously like a couch one might use to... interview someone. Maybe someone like an actor. This interview might be an attempt to "cast" someone into a live action film. I wonder if there is a job waiting for the lucky interviewee....

there is no job.

kalimus 02-22-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P.Charm (Post 10610656)
there is no job.

Oh... that poor interviewee. I wonder if the person being interviewed is aware of that before hand. I would imagine said interviewee is probably willing to give a display of all applicable skills in the interview... probably puts a lot of extra effort in to get the part too....

call-in 02-22-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossy (Post 10608984)
guys it is completely legit there is no need for the fear or tin foil hats. i was called in for a follow up interview interview :) i even snapped a quick pic of the classy interview room just to show you it is safe. i cant talk about what happened or what questions were asked for obvious reasons, but i can tell you fun times were had promises were made and i will get a call in about a week. here is a pic of the interview room :D .
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...psa02dccd7.jpg

(if you dont recognize the room or couch you need to spend more time on the internet)

Did you have to bring your own uhhhh....... lube? :D

kcjr1125 02-22-2013 11:06 AM

i dont get this couch thing.. what am i missing?

Ryanorielly 02-22-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P.Charm (Post 10610325)
There is no job. haha

I don't know what's better, the fact people don't know where this is from or the fact that I'm no longer the only one who HAS seen this series:cool:

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Hoooper 02-22-2013 11:35 AM

Two things come to mind in this thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceHound (Post 10608658)
PM picture of AR, brief introduction including age, profession, and reason for interest in forming well regulated militia.

http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/Wh...3f50b80cbb.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossy (Post 10608984)

http://www.sportsandentertainmentlaw...er%20Mario.jpg

RuskieShooter 02-22-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceHound (Post 10608658)
Taking applications for well regulated militia.

BLM target practice shoot with:

1) AR-15, M16 rifle with 16", 20", 22", or 24" barrel
2) Side-arm pistol

PM picture of AR, brief introduction including age, profession, and reason for interest in forming well regulated militia.

Enjoy your "quality time" with Bubba. Don't forget some lube.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...000&file=11460

PENAL CODE
SECTION 11460
11460. (a) Any two or more persons who assemble as a paramilitary
organization for the purpose of practicing with weapons shall be
punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year
or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by
both that fine and imprisonment.
As used in this subdivision, “paramilitary organization” means an
organization which is not an agency of the United States government
or of the State of California, or which is not a private school
meeting the requirements set forth in Section 48222 of the Education
Code, but which engages in instruction or training in guerrilla
warfare or sabotage, or which, as an organization, engages in rioting
or the violent disruption of, or the violent interference with,
school activities.

Anschiss 02-22-2013 11:36 AM

PM'd, when do I get my uniform?

chillincody 02-22-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuskieShooter (Post 10611611)
Enjoy your "quality time" with Bubba. Don't forget some lube.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...000&file=11460

PENAL CODE
SECTION 11460
11460. (a) Any two or more persons who assemble as a paramilitary
organization for the purpose of practicing with weapons shall be
punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year
or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by
both that fine and imprisonment.
As used in this subdivision, “paramilitary organization” means an
organization which is not an agency of the United States government
or of the State of California, or which is not a private school
meeting the requirements set forth in Section 48222 of the Education
Code, but which engages in instruction or training in guerrilla
warfare or sabotage, or which, as an organization, engages in rioting
or the violent disruption of, or the violent interference with,
school activities.


thanks I was looking for that to post for OP


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